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One thing, check their opening times for the day you intend going. They have an unusual trading pattern owing to religious observance.
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I've got the 35mm f/2.8 and I love it - nearly all my model shots on flickr are taken with it. A 50mm is too long in a small space.
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Now I'm back from my Florida holiday, I thought I'd post some examples of what the A55 can do. All these are taken without a tripod and with a 18-200 Sony lens.

In all cases, full image is behind the thumbnail.

As background, I've had an A100 and an A300 before. With those two cameras, I was always scared of going above ISO 200 for fear of excess picture noise.

The A55 has improved this dramatically IMO.

Here's a ISO 400 shot as an example

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/cuB1KwNGnmaXM9a-Vsi4rA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_YbSWw5BeS-k/TRO9sOVJ_eI/AAAAAAAAhsI/5Lxco-GR3oo/s400/DSC00981.JPG" height="225" width="400" /></a>
[SIZE="1"]ISO: 400 Exposure: 1/5 sec Aperture: 4.0 Focal Length: 24mm[/SIZE]

When using Auto ISO (I did this a lot) it would range from ISO80 down to ISO1600, including 125, 320 etc.

Here's an example of the 1600 noise.

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/XnJ7XvMv8gWi3FTh8r3SpQ?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_YbSWw5BeS-k/TRO-z6YXmuI/AAAAAAAAhro/rw-2PFNjjeE/s400/DSC00569.JPG" height="225" width="400" /></a>
[SIZE="1"]ISO: 1600 Exposure: 1/125 sec Aperture: 5.0 Focal Length: 50mm
[/SIZE]
Overall pretty good I think.

If I needed to go lower in poorer light, then I could manually set ISO to 3200, 6400 or even 12800

ISO 6400 Example 1

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/iJLmlgr6OwRZ2CuhUtk6aA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_YbSWw5BeS-k/TRO9vQtVvrI/AAAAAAAAhnk/R8WaWZ9dxnU/s400/DSC01016.JPG" height="225" width="400" /></a>
[SIZE="1"]ISO: 6400 Exposure: 1/60 sec Aperture: 6.3 Focal Length: 120mm
[/SIZE]
ISO 6400 Example 2

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/H17WAngRufk2qEGluboLPA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_YbSWw5BeS-k/TRO9zpp9D_I/AAAAAAAAhnw/NwL4nQyQSNM/s400/DSC02805.JPG" height="225" width="400" /></a>
[SIZE="1"]ISO: 6400 Exposure: 1/2 sec Aperture: 8.0 Focal Length: 40mm
[/SIZE]
Here you can start seeing the noise in the background.

In extreme situations, handheld in almost darkness in this case (Inside the ET ride at Universal) I moved up to 12800

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/iQmr_fh1uCfIkp3-H2tYaQ?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_YbSWw5BeS-k/TRO93Ud5p9I/AAAAAAAAhn4/wMRmIN97Jm0/s400/DSC02653.JPG" height="225" width="400" /></a>
[SIZE="1"]ISO: 12800 Exposure: 1/3 sec Aperture: 5.0 Focal Length: 18mm
[/SIZE]

The A55 also had a 'best guess' ISO setting which you set to, say 800 then it would take multiple shots back to back and combine to attempt to smooth out the noise. Sorry but I can't find an example of this.


Other fun things can be done with the 10 frames per second, allowing you to pick the best shot.

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/N5LTkq1LOMyfwGss3RBwAw?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_YbSWw5BeS-k/TRO97nxJHVI/AAAAAAAAhoE/H-JAjAhllLY/s400/DSC01036.JPG" height="225" width="400" /></a>
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/cB5vOFBeYhoiP_wtnvKQWg?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_YbSWw5BeS-k/TRO9-idHWEI/AAAAAAAAhoQ/fA-NvcHBPTY/s400/DSC01037.JPG" height="225" width="400" /></a>

There's another example in the Web Album, but I've removed it from here so I can get the remaining images into the post limit!


Auto HDR is an interesting feature. It's in-camera and will again take three shots (over 1/3 of a second) and combine the shots to try to reduce blow-out. The camera also stores the middle shot for comparison.

Here's some examples

Normal shot
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/9b7QPsCfefbUlUPeneOeDA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_YbSWw5BeS-k/TRO-VkHhpfI/AAAAAAAAhpU/WePTLuxvGrQ/s400/DSC01555.JPG" height="225" width="400" /></a>
[SIZE="1"]ISO: 100 Exposure: 1/125 sec Aperture: 6.3 Focal Length: 30mm
[/SIZE]
HDR version
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/aTskidPbVHyKLMjBicuGRA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_YbSWw5BeS-k/TRO-Z9rIgGI/AAAAAAAAhpg/qfpa2j59k2I/s400/DSC01556.JPG" height="225" width="400" /></a>
[SIZE="1"]ISO: 100 Exposure: 1/125 sec Aperture: 6.3 Focal Length: 30mm
[/SIZE]

Example 2

Normal
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/O_Il-oFWfjslI37kS5POBA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh6.ggpht.com/_YbSWw5BeS-k/TRO-eaJZM6I/AAAAAAAAhps/tC-jDmKhID4/s400/DSC01565.JPG" height="225" width="400" /></a>
[SIZE="1"]ISO: 100 Exposure: 1/125 sec Aperture: 7.1 Focal Length: 28mm
[/SIZE]
HDR Version
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/mTXvO2FUQvwJZxYEmxpXOQ?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_YbSWw5BeS-k/TRO-hyihNrI/AAAAAAAAhp4/ccpHtr3nSGQ/s400/DSC01566.JPG" height="225" width="400" /></a>
[SIZE="1"]ISO: 100 Exposure: 1/125 sec Aperture: 7.1 Focal Length: 28mm
[/SIZE]

Those were taken with HDR-Auto, but you can also specify the range of HDR to use - here's an extreme example

Normal
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/t4UJmbXoew5ROZKuRn53ZA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_YbSWw5BeS-k/TRO-lhGTplI/AAAAAAAAhqI/I-f-2mM6vSg/s400/DSC01986.JPG" height="225" width="400" /></a>
[SIZE="1"]ISO: 100 Exposure: 1/500 sec Aperture: 3.5 Focal Length: 18mm[/SIZE]
Enhanced with HDR
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/iCSLb86v03ifx84nZJuzfw?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_YbSWw5BeS-k/TRO-pIqrCPI/AAAAAAAAhqU/bpSX5Xq7J2E/s400/DSC01987.JPG" height="225" width="400" /></a>
[SIZE="1"]ISO: 100 Exposure: 1/500 sec Aperture: 3.5 Focal Length: 18mm[/SIZE]

Finally, I'm a panoramic fan, so here's a couple of Panoramics. First off, the standard setting, swinging the camera left to right horizontally, the camera will again take multiple shots (about 8 to 10 I think) and combine them into one shot.

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/EBEhveAiARWl3CO2R8yWWQ?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_YbSWw5BeS-k/TRO-s-4hnkI/AAAAAAAAhqg/BTePhpBUBrA/s400/DSC02028.JPG" height="91" width="400" /></a>
[SIZE="1"]ISO: 100 Exposure: 1/125 sec Aperture: 5.6 Focal Length: 18mm
[/SIZE]
And
Removed to reach the 15 image limit. See the web album.

For this last one, I changed the orientation to UP in the settings (used for vertical panoramics) but then flipped the camera into portrait mode and again did a left to right swing. This should give you a much deeper photo, not as thin an wide as the default shots.

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/YHV5jCCQjg7u3hbx42zxvw?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/_YbSWw5BeS-k/TRO-y5rFLxI/AAAAAAAAhq0/7JelmM19lOo/s400/DSC02793.JPG" height="223" width="400" /></a>
[SIZE="1"]ISO: 100 Exposure: 1/80 sec Aperture: 4.5 Focal Length: 22mm
[/SIZE]

This photo was a bit of a fail though because I'd not set the exposure to the middle of the photo and you can clearly see banding in the sky area.

Also, as the default setting for my camera was at 4912x2760 I'd have expected the dimension of the above to be something like ???? x 4912 but it's only 3872x2160 so I'm guessing there's a lot of trimming going on there.

Full web album here

Overall, I've had some fun getting to grips with this camera and I've been impressed with what I've seen so far.
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I was playing with an A33 tonight...

Was using smile detection on a baby...really useful.

Really fun camera...

Did you have any problems with overheating? And what were you getting out of your battery?
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Nothing overheated - but then I had read about the heat issues you get with HD video so I never went mad with it.

As for battery, well I did get a second battery before I flew out and overall I think I used it three times. Each time the original (fully charged) battery had gone flat before I'd got home. With the GPS turned on and that glorious screen active it does use the juice. So I'd recommend a backup without hesitation.

The A33 has the same screen I believe, but no GPS so that might fair a little better.
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Very tempted to get an A33 as a backup body for my A700.

Or wait for the rumoured A77 and hope it has dual control wheels and a PC socket?
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My Sigma 70-300 has been fine on the A55 up to now but today has started hunting for focus and making a really nasty grinding noise on start up and shut down :(

I guess it's the sigma problem with these cameras, or is it just that the lens has had it??

Really enjoying the A55, got some beautiful shots of a Cornish sunrise this morning that I'll post up when I'm back from hols in the NY :)
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If you don't post some Top Of The Rock panoramics, I'll be really mad! ;)
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Top of the rock?
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Oops, I misread your last post as "holiday in NY" (new york) :lol:
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:)

I've been playing with the pano mode a fair bit so hopefully there's an image or 2 that are usable.
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The Friedman ebook for the a33/a55 is up for download

http://friedmanarchivespress.com/ashop/ ... product=37
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So anyone found some quality lenses for their Sony a33 and 55? Where do you look for the best lens reviews for compatible cameras?

I want a BIG zoom, something like 400mm+ (35mm equivalent) but not costing the world. Sony Alpha 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 Lens seems good, if you like purple fringing that is, still maybe worth a punt, as you can always edit it out a fair bit.

Still while I may get the a33 or 55 (still not sure if I care for 10 frames a second and GPS is crap! so for a hundred quid more not sure, the megapixel increase seems ok). The rumors are the a77 comes out in 2 months, to wait or not to wait!!!!
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Seems my 350D is too old , I need a new DSLR.
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RomerojpgX wrote:I want a BIG zoom, something like 400mm+ (35mm equivalent) but not costing the world. Sony Alpha 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 Lens seems good, if you like purple fringing that is, still maybe worth a punt, as you can always edit it out a fair bit.


It's not too bad...

This is a cropped unedited jpeg with my 75-300 kit lens on my A100...

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/9945386@N06/1355832608/" title="DSC00595 by D3RON, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1369/1355832608_09736eccf5_z.jpg" width="640" height="504" alt="DSC00595"></a>

And this is one I took in Cornwall and have edited in lightroom...

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/9945386@N06/5663443635/" title="DSC02331 by D3RON, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5183/5663443635_86e5288ddb_z.jpg" width="640" height="429" alt="DSC02331"></a>
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I use a cheap tamron zoom on the A55, the 70-300 f4-5.6 macro jobby.

For the money (c£120 new) I think it's excellent value.
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Wife was shooting at a horse trials a couple of weeks ago and had her camera bag stolen. Not the most expensive kit compared to others on here but still need to replace a EOS 550D, spare cards, batteries and a couple of lenses. Very annoying.

I clearly can't even spell Canon, in my world it starts with S.... Idiot.
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Sony announced a new Firmware for the A33 and A55 that, amongst other things, added some funky new scene modes to the standard Landscape, Portrait, Twilight etc.

Here's a couple of examples of what you get now.

Posterised
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/3u2vwhmhYvpuonlKr131sA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-J_Y6oqQMKqM/ThmBgK8zKhI/AAAAAAAAiLU/Y_hcnK0ypfI/s640/DSC02928.JPG" height="360" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/steve.conrad/A55ExampleShots?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">A55 Example Shots</a></td></tr></table>

High Contrast B&W
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/RGtATS_lUtsiO6hlgH0KRQ?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7mbIynLgiAQ/ThmBeI-_SiI/AAAAAAAAiLI/7x7CjZJhQdA/s640/DSC02931.JPG" height="360" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/steve.conrad/A55ExampleShots?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">A55 Example Shots</a></td></tr></table>

High Key - although I'm not sure exactly what that is supposed to be!
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/YxO4xhAKcb08gphv9hXVGQ?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-UZft49rNzx4/ThmBe5oLFwI/AAAAAAAAiLM/li1GJ_jERv4/s640/DSC02930.JPG" height="360" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/steve.conrad/A55ExampleShots?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">A55 Example Shots</a></td></tr></table>

High Colour
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/K7RmkUcIG4XxbqoZflxiEg?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-OeDbpYMxcyE/ThmBfbUr9OI/AAAAAAAAiLQ/bht859NXFbg/s640/DSC02929.JPG" height="360" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/steve.conrad/A55ExampleShots?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">A55 Example Shots</a></td></tr></table>

Aged - supposed to look like a photo from the 70's ;)
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/vyKgB4hLlk88L8wTK9xt9w?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--y2-azRecGg/ThmBgh3RCfI/AAAAAAAAiLY/thCTx_r8zcU/s640/DSC02926.JPG" height="360" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/steve.conrad/A55ExampleShots?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">A55 Example Shots</a></td></tr></table>

Toy Camera :shrug:
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/lo5B_jgsimXKHa7RnnvXiA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-iqcyihN8wVw/ThmBdK5aSkI/AAAAAAAAiLE/c3QfAabY4_0/s640/DSC02933.JPG" height="360" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/steve.conrad/A55ExampleShots?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">A55 Example Shots</a></td></tr></table>

There's also a series of filter modes to mask out all but blue/red/green/yellow from a shot as you take it.
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/tlEMGNHJfFdO_2Uv0OG-Rw?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7sPROBqDpc4/ThmBk_Te3_I/AAAAAAAAiL0/1qY_qUTY-fw/s640/DSC03068.JPG" height="360" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/steve.conrad/A55ExampleShots?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">A55 Example Shots</a></td></tr></table>
<a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2c_PGfGD8ye5LY8m2u-qfg?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mEIDRINYmjk/ThmBkI1lbQI/AAAAAAAAiLw/kvnVx1jftSY/s640/DSC03069.JPG" height="360" width="640" /></a>

Whilst messing about with the scene mode a little more, I also hit upon the Twilight Handheld mode, that I'd honestly not used before. This will take four shots back to back. The first shot is the photo at a high ISO (1250+ it seems) then the other three are used as reference to for the noise reduction. Here's a couple of shots taken in reduced light.

ISO 6400 F4.5 1/40
<a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/MrG0s9gX8ltTrqwOgOzsxg?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-iVgRQKrrE78/ThmBhG_DZMI/AAAAAAAAiLc/YFCwfaqxG5o/s400/DSC03191.JPG" height="225" width="400" /></a>
ISO 4000 F4.5 1/80
<a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/pzAwr44qfUqIdqOVOKzmiA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-octR9NFRPis/ThmBi3Eeu7I/AAAAAAAAiLo/sLG83TLxBHw/s400/DSC03275.JPG" height="225" width="400" /></a>
ISO 6400 F5 1/40
<a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/L1iHMsxkNjXOExwv4HrlwQ?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-wKdt29X9Kug/ThmBjV5lJRI/AAAAAAAAiLs/tlvWaPJlAVA/s400/DSC03279.JPG" height="225" width="400" /></a>

Finally, here's a couple of shots showing the before and after DRO effect which uses multiple shots (it takes 4) per press to get the best range for a photo. Three are used in the DRO shot, the other is used as the 'before' shot.

Pre
<a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rXqmCubm_jVDIFIXHtx-iQ?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Z-aydln35Ug/ThmBhiK6loI/AAAAAAAAiLg/Xl8B9Do38UE/s640/DSC03224.JPG" height="360" width="640" /></a>

Post
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Post by Deron »

Like the toy camera mode and the high colour is pretty pleasing on the eye.

The rumoured A77 should be showing up next month, so it'll be interesting to see what they do with it.

Even more interestingly there is a 16-50 f/2.8 due to correspond with the launch with an rrp of $799...

On a crop, that was always the lens I wanted...
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I am waiting for these new models next month and will jump on the Sony bandwagon depending on how they turn out (or dont).
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