**The Official Sony dSLR Thread Part 1**

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**The Official Sony dSLR Thread Part 1**

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I'm looking to get an entry-level DSLR and am looking at the usual suspects of the Nikon D40X, Canon EOS 400D and the Sony A100. They all seem very similar in terms of spec/price so it is very hard to choose!

I had a Minolta 7000i as a film SLR and was very happy with it. I did read somewhere that the Minolta AF lenses I have with that camera would work with the Sony - is that true?

To be honest I am veering toward to Sony, although the high ISO performance puts me off. Am I right in thinking that that would mean it performs worse in low light (kids parties etc indoors)?

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yes is the answer to the High ISO performance meaning more noise.

AFAIA you can still use the 7000i lenses on the A100, sure Pirate! will mention something on this (think he has the A100)


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Post by AndyWilson »

I bought an A100 a few weeks ago and happily use my Minolta AF lenses on it..

There's a whole site devoted to Minolta lenses on the A100...

http://www.dyxum.com/lenses/index.asp


..and the Sony website also has a compatability chart

http://www.sonydigital-link.com/DIME/digistill/alpha/compatibility/lens.asp?l=en

It's also worth noting that the built in image stabilisation lets you use lower ISO speeds for indoor shots...

e.g. an indoor photo under natural light with no flash..

Focal length: 100.0mm (35mm equivalent: 150mm)
Exposure time: 0.077 s (1/13)
Aperture: f/5.0
ISO equiv.: 400

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Post by rosbif »

Thanks for those links - the colours in the photo look very natural!

I have three or four old Minolta AF lenses so that may well swing my decision. I was always very happy with my 50mm f1.7 for portraits.
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Post by Tastydirt »

All 10MP cameras have the same high ISO problem, as they all use the same Sony made sensor. The Nikon D40 (non-x) has a 6MP sensor which has better high ISO noise, but obviously won't take any of your Minolta AF lenses and doesn't have in-body IS.

Remember that your 50mm will be an effective 75mm lens now.
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AndyWilson wrote:It's also worth noting that the built in image stabilisation lets you use lower ISO speeds for indoor shots...

e.g. an indoor photo under natural light with no flash..


Providing your subject is not moving. Image stabilisation only compensates for user shake, not subject movement.

tbh even at that small size it looks very soft, I'm guessing he moved a bit? 1/13 isn't enough to freeze subject movement.

clean high ISO performance and fast lenses are the way to go for decent indoor shot without flash.
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So looking that the packs that the shops are selling is it better to go for the 18-70 lense and save some money or spend a bit more with the initial purchase?

It seems that for the same price there is a pack with an 18-200 lens or one with both an 18-70 and a 75-300 (around £600 for both)

The camera body on its own is £400, with the 18-70 it is £430...

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I went for just the 18-70, but I already had a minolta 75-300 and er - another one, maybe 35-105, which I don't use much
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I've just dug out my old Minolta fit AF lenses. I have the 50mm f1.7 and a 35-135 Sigma. Coupled with the new 18-70 and 75-300 that would have me covered for a few years till I got serious wouldn't it? Or would the 18-200 plus my existing be the better fit?
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I have an Alpha 100, been quite happy with it so far.

The kit-lens is actually surprisingly good, so I recommend getting it. 50mm is a super lens though which performs well on the DSLR platform.
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Its currently £349 in the Argos clearance sale with the 18-70mm lens !

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Goodness me! The cheapest I'd seen it was £430 from Comet. Argos have the black one at £499 - big difference in price?

Is there any difference between the A100K and the A100W? Comet has two which look the same but with a big price difference...
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rosbif wrote:Is there any difference between the A100K and the A100W?


Nothing that a can of black spray paint can't fix! :thumbs:
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Have just reserved one in case. Would love to know the difference though. This would leave £250 for another lens to be the same as the other offer!
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So which lens (zoom) to go with the 18-70? Longest I have is a Sigma 35-135..
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Post by Coolio »

are the lenses for the sony cheaper than the canon 400d?
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Post by Fatbloke »

If you want a comparable lens with image stabilisation in it then yes, simply because you've already got the IS in the Sony body. With Canon and Nikon, you have to pay extra for the IS on each lens you buy.
Whether the IS on Sony is as good as a Canon IS is another debate...
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Depends if you're looking new or old? Theres a huge second hand market for Canon lenses, which give you lots of choice but can also keep prices high.
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Post by AndyWilson »

A quick google shows a Sony 75-300 F/4.5-F/5.6 can be had for about £150 online. I think that lens is basically a rebranded (i.e. painted black) version of the Minolta lens I've got.
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