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Old 14-09-2009, 15:28   #1
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Nirvana - In Utero (Steve Albini Mix)

Been listening to this today for the first time in years, and certainly for the first time since owning a decent stereo set-up and well, the production is bloody awful.

I know Albini didn't have final say on how the record sounded, but can anyone confirm whether the version of the album released recently, that claims to be his original recording (before Cobain screwed with it) sounds any better?

I wouldn't mind knowing before splashing the cash. The album still rocks either way, but I don't recall it ever sounding this bad.

EDIT - it seems the Albini version is not an official release and merely a bootleg as a result of the wrong master being applied to a vinyl release. Hmmm has anyone heard it anyway?

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Old 14-09-2009, 16:27   #2
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Would really like to hear these.

Although I remember reading that the record company only properly remixed three of the tracks (Pennyroyal tea) being one of them I think, and I remember reading they removed an "atonal" guitar solo from either Heart Shaped Box or Serve the Servants.
I've heard a demo of Heart Shaped Box (on the box set) which would fit this category but I'm not sure if this is from the Albini sessions.

I do like his style. Been listening to 'Rid of Me' and 'Pod' recently.
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Old 14-09-2009, 17:11   #3
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Interesting - had not heard about this. A quick search gives this info, if it helps -

This is Steve Albini's original mix of "In Utero". "Heart-Shaped Box" and "All Apologies" were later remixed for the final album. "Pennyroyal Tea" is also remixed on the "Wal-Mart" version of the album, as well as the "Greatest Hits" CD. The additional 4 tracks recorded during the sessions are included here as bonus tracks. The sound quality on these tracks is much better than the "With The Lights Out" box. All of these tracks have been bootlegged in very poor quality as "In Utero Demos" and "In Utero Unmixed" among other things.

The source for the Albini mix is the remastered German Universal LP, catalog # 424-536-1. It was transferred with an AT-440ML stylus into a Philips standalone CD Recorder and ripped to WAV with EAC. CoolEditPro was used for editing and mastering. EQ and volume were slightly adjusted. Pops and clicks were removed by hand. There was no other processing of any kind.

Transferred & Mastered by JWB - June 2007
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Old 14-09-2009, 17:13   #4
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We're back to remix and remastering territory!

The finished album is basically the 'Albini Mix' aside from HSB and All Apologies which were remixed (extra guitar and vocals on the former) by the band and Scott Litt. Everything else is Albini's mix prior to whatever was decided in the mastering process.

The 'all-Albini mix' that circulates is a version that has been used mistakenly twice (!) on specific vinyl editions.
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Old 14-09-2009, 17:14   #5
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I love In Utero. If the finished product is Cobains prefered version thats fine with me.

In fact, im going to listen to it now. Rape Me should **** off a few fools by my desk.
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Old 14-09-2009, 17:23   #6
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See the way I read it was that Cobain dumped the finished album on the desk of the record company execs who were not happy that they could sell it. The band went back to Albini who refused to touch it, and so the band hired someone else in who significantly changed the albums sound.

I'm going to have a listen to the alternate mix to see if it differs that much as I have found a lossless boot taken from the vinyl, which should confirm it either way.
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Old 14-09-2009, 18:19   #7
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We're back to remix and remastering territory!

The finished album is basically the 'Albini Mix' aside from HSB and All Apologies which were remixed (extra guitar and vocals on the former) by the band and Scott Litt. Everything else is Albini's mix prior to whatever was decided in the mastering process.

The 'all-Albini mix' that circulates is a version that has been used mistakenly twice (!) on specific vinyl editions.
Yeah just had a quick listen Mr B and you are spot on. The tracks you mention seem a bit less polished on the German vinyl, and HSB is a lot quieter, but apart from that there is no difference at all. You would have to have damn good ears to notice any difference between them at all.

Well that was a big waste of time Anyone know why the CD has recommended treble and bass settings included then?
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Old 14-09-2009, 18:24   #8
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That reminds me how much i loved the inlay for that album.

Secret confession time - i stole a new inlay from a shop to replace my old crumpled one when i was young and stupid
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It scares me that you were young when this came out. I thought you were a balding 30-something like me.
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I am a balding 30 something. Well balding 30 yr old

This came out in 93 so ya, id consider that young.
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Oh yeah me too yay Well I was 17 anyway. Beyond my own shoplifting days anyway.
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Thanks for drawing me back to listen to an album that I've not had out of the case for probably a decade. You have, however, how you Enleesh say? The clothing ears?

It sounds fantastic on my hi-fi - much better than the weedy Loveless which I've now got on
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Speaking of inlay notes I love the inner sleve to Insestcide that basically begs "Jocks, Homophobes, Racists and Sexists" not to buy his albums.
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Thanks for drawing me back to listen to an album that I've not had out of the case for probably a decade. You have, however, how you Enleesh say? The clothing ears?

It sounds fantastic on my hi-fi - much better than the weedy Loveless which I've now got on
The drums sound ace but everything else is middle-ground muddy. I know they were deliberately trying to rebel against Nevermind, but it's a record that screams of deliberate lo-fi.

As a side-note, is that the ever-delayed Loveless remaster? That's even more awaited in the Barlow household than the recent Beatles effort.
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No, its **** old one. Looking forward to ATP though
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Nirvana - In Utero (Steve Albini Mix)

Bump for more news on the 20th anniversary release:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...issue-20130813

I'm getting the big-box just for the Live and Loud DVD (and it will look so pretty next to my Nevermind box)
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Old 14-08-2013, 19:43   #17
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Albini's production method was mike everything and that's it, was a lo-fi element to it- think Shellac.

But when he produced The Wedding Present he applied the 'sparkle' button / peddle a lot.

But there was (is) still a lot a mess ups with mastering or even re-master - e.g. last batch of Nick Cave were not as good as all the others.
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