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Old 25-04-2004, 23:34   #1
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The official Film Noir thread

I thought given there are very popular threads for westerns and hitchcock films and the like, we needed a proper thread dedicated to film noir!

Seems a nice idea to have a central hub to discuss upcoming reissues, what we want to see released and general classics.

I for one would dearly love to see a special edition of Double Indemnity. I only have a *cough* asian *cough* edition, with slightly dubious picture quality. Anyone know of plans to rerelease this one day?

Hope someone replies and I dont feel silly for starting a thread with no replies
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Old 25-04-2004, 23:44   #2
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Universal are releasing Double Indemnity R1 on 6th July as part of a film noir range. Retail is $14.98, and like the others in the range (Black Angel, Criss Cross, This Gun For Hire (1942), The Big Clock) it'll be a barebones trailer only affair.

Edit: Actually I should say both Double Indemnity and The Big Clock haven't had extras confirmed right now, but they seem unlikely to offer much at that pricepoint.

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Old 28-04-2004, 20:27   #3
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Two excellent threads for film noir reference over at the HTF:

20th Century Fox's 'Film Noir Classics' DVD Series

and Herb Kane's

Film Noir - LIST Page.

EDIT - another excellent Film Noir Thread from dvdtalk.com here.

We need our own Herb Kane in here - where are you hitch_fan?

BTW, as I've just mentioned elsewhere, those Universal noirs are now up for pre-order for Ł5.30 each at dvdpacific.com (could be slightly cheaper when they appear at dvdsoon.com), and Warners mouth-watering Film Noir box set is for pre-order at The Lasers Edge for $34.99, another good indicator that it will be even cheaper elsewhere...

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Old 29-04-2004, 12:12   #4
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Finally, I succombed to In a Lonely Place (it dropped to an acceptable price - Ł7.99 - at play.com ), which arrived this morning.

I'd heard good things about the transfer, and I wasn't disappointed. Not a bells and whistles restoration - there's still some speckling to be seen - nevertheless it looks gorgeous, finely detailed and decent contrast. It also helps that it's a great film with one of the very best Humphrey Bogart performances and a very tight script;

Mildred Atkinson: Oh I think it'll make a dreamy picture, Mr. Steele. What I call an epic.
Dixon Steele: And what do you call an epic?
Mildred Atkinson: Well, you know - a picture that's REAL long and has lots of things going on.


After a fine start, Columbia's classic output has been, by and large, disappointing; it's a lucky dip with transfers these days, and they've decided to mostly ditch extras (only trailers, a restoration demo and a promo for other Columbia Bogart titles here). And, while most other studios have lowered prices, Columbia, certainly in R1, have stubbornly kept theirs high. Still, at Ł7.99 for a film noir of this calibre, one can't complain too much...

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Old 29-04-2004, 22:29   #5
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Apart from Double Indemnity which I can't WAIT to get, does anyone recommend any of the other titles that Universal are releasing?
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Don’t forget that the BFI have tossed out a few Noir titles. No idea what the transfers are like but if the covers adorning this slightly odd selection are anything to go by we may be in for some disappointment.

Anyone got them yet?
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Old 30-04-2004, 08:56   #7
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Apart from Double Indemnity which I can't WAIT to get, does anyone recommend any of the other titles that Universal are releasing?
The Gun for Hire and The Big Clock are classics of the genre and you won't be disappointed. I think I've seen Robert Siodmak's Criss Cross but for the life of me I can't remember any details and I haven't seen Black Angel, but you can hardly wrong with Duryea, Lorre and Broderick Crawford...and I'm looking forward to them all!

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Don’t forget that the BFI have tossed out a few Noir titles. No idea what the transfers are like but if the covers adorning this slightly odd selection are anything to go by we may be in for some disappointment.

Anyone got them yet?
I'm a little loathe to get them myself (especially at BFI prices), until I see what R1 does with these.

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I'll be getting "Criss Cross".
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Besides the 5 upcoming WB titles and the 5 Universal titles, there is also Artisan's Force Of Evil, Image's Too Late For Tears & Suddenly, Home Vision's Time Without Pity and two Alpha titles, Circumstantial Evidence and The Green Glove, brings the total to 16 Film Noir titles to be released between now and the end of July.

Just having watched a few of these recently, let me recommend a few titles that fall into the bargain category:

1. Eyes In The Night (1942) - Alpha
2. The Scar (1948) with The Limping Man (1953) from VCI
3. Hoodlum, The (1951) – Alpha (Lawrence Tierney)
4. They Made Me A Criminal (1939) - Alpha (originally Warner Brothers – John Garfield)

It’s tough to recommend Alpha titles since the quality of the presentation can span from barely watchable to quite good, but the ones I listed above are certainly better than you might think and can be had for virtually the cost of a rental (they can be had for $5 bucks each from Oldies – 5/$25).

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Old 02-05-2004, 08:47   #10
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Herb!

I'm relying on you for reports of (at least) the Image and Artisan titles

What's 'Oldies'? Do they ship across the pond?

EDIT - got it now - oldies.com.

BTW, amazon.ca seems to be the cheapest way for those of us outside North America to get the Warners noir box, with only dvdsoon.com of the 'usual suspects' yet to list it.

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John... as soon as I get them and plop them in, I'll let you know. I'm taking a bit of a gamble on the Image titles, but both are terrific films and (hopefully) have to be better than what is presently available.

After just checking the Oldies.com site, I noticed they have another title announced for June 22nd, RKO's Tokyo File 212 (1951) which will available from Alpha.

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Covers for the Universal titles posted here.

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Managed to bag the BFI Noir titles. Will check them out and let you know if the contents belie the terrible covers. Didn’t realise they were all Preminger titles so that was nice.
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Can only recommend JP Melville's "Le Doulos" (1963) just released by BFI.

Dunno about the DVD itself but the film is noir at its best.

Just one comment about BFI. They could avoid to make the same mistake as Criterion. They put on the DVD of "Le Cercle Rouge" a quote from Tarantino. It says some bull-crap like "Melville did to the gansgter genre what Leone did to Western".
Criterion is saying on the cover something like "John Woo presents".

Come on guys these directors were in their nappies when Melville was shooting.
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Old 12-05-2004, 16:08   #15
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According to these screen caps at dvdbeaver ( ) Artisan / Lion's Gate have done reasonably well with John Garfield's noir classic Force of Evil; but no extras

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Covers for the Universal titles posted here.

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I notice these are up for preorder at DVDSoon at about Ł6.20 a pop. Still no sign of the Warners Film Noir Collection though.
 
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Double Indemnity has dissappeared from the dvdtimes piece here and the universal site it's still listed for pre-order at some places but i'm betting it's postponed or shelved. My only hope is they've decided to go the special edition route...

The Warner noir's have appeared at dvdpacific in separate and box set form, although the boxset doesn't list contents:

film noir collection vol. 1

The Asphalt Jubgle

couldn't find the other single releases just now but i know i saw t least one more when i looked last night... :confused:

EDIT: it's at amazon.ca for the lovely price of around Ł17 + shipping...

http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/ASI...233434-9157906


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Double Indemnity has been removed from Universal's July Film Noir range, I posted the update on the front page last night but forgot to include the info in the main piece you've linked to above (it's now updated to point out the change).
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The Warners Film Noir Collection has appeared at last at dvdsoon.com, and it's a great price - see here.

BTW, first reports say that Artisan / Lion's Gate have done a decent if not stellar job of Force of Evil.

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New version of Lang‘s Scarlet Street due in France at a good price:

http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002966JS/

Gotta be better than the lousy Alpha R1 version.
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