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Old 14-04-2015, 19:03   #101
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This sounds quite promising. Been trying to skim the thread so I don't spoil anything for myself.

One question - how "brutal is brutal"? Seen several mentions of the levels of violence in it so may not be acceptable in my wife's books. She's okay with Statham style fisticuffs and bloodletting, but anything too realistic/nasty she's not keen on.
It's not full on Saw levels of gore, but probably on par with something like Die Hard. The main thing is that most of the violence is only glimpsed or suggested rather than shown outright. Quick shots of bones snapping, blood splattering from something off camera. The more extreme moments do stand out but again the sound design and camera angles are making you think you've seen more than you really have.
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Old 14-04-2015, 21:59   #102
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I think most people are saying it is brutal compared to what we have been used to on network TV for most Superhero shows as LeftHanded mentioned it is not bloody or gratuitous but it is more full on then say something like Arrow.
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Old 15-04-2015, 06:09   #103
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This sounds quite promising. Been trying to skim the thread so I don't spoil anything for myself.

One question - how "brutal is brutal"? Seen several mentions of the levels of violence in it so may not be acceptable in my wife's books. She's okay with Statham style fisticuffs and bloodletting, but anything too realistic/nasty she's not keen on.
My wife finds it too brutal. But so far (to Ep 10) there have only been three real full on scenes I can recall. The rest are hand combat fights with pretty realistic damage as a result.
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Old 15-04-2015, 07:52   #104
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Finished it last night, and can confidently say it's better than anything in the MCU or any other comic book show around at the moment.

I'd love to see a Dredd series in Netflix's hands, seeing as there's now zero chance of a movie sequel.
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Old 15-04-2015, 14:54   #105
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Noticed a couple of f-words appear in episode 6, though they were slightly obscured. So yeah, the promoters did try to downplay how un-family-friendly this was going to be a little bit!
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Old 15-04-2015, 18:12   #106
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The show makes me want the batman films to be 15 rated not that limp 12a style fights the recent films had

Finished the season 1 now and it was great, not often a tv show gets it right from the start. So often you hear (or say) keep with it it gets better after ep......

I think the show has the right amount of violence in the fight scenes.

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Old 17-04-2015, 07:47   #107
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Up to about ep 8 now and really enjoying this - as mentioned, it's got so much more to it than the alternative superhero-type shows out there and shows them up as being extremely lightweight.

Charlie Cox and much of the supporting cast are very strong, but I particularly like Vincent D'Onofrio's performance - I've always found him great to watch and he does very well stealing scenes just by his little gestures and twitches. Wesley's quite an interesting character too.

I think my only gripe is the extreme extent of police corruption - I get that no one can mention Fisk’s name without repercussions, but the way they casually dispatch anyone that’s not corrupt seems a little too blasé
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Old 18-04-2015, 00:13   #108
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I loved it. DD has been my favourite comic book since my teens.

Its pretty much the best comic adaptation since Batman Begins. Giving it a real world setting without betraying its comic roots.

Gotham toys with the idea of being a series for older viewers, but is let down by camp characters and silly storylines.

Good to see Melvin Potter turn up and noted the saw blades sketches when he handed Matt the suit over. I expect he returns


Hoping to hear a green light for a Season 2 soon. Everything I have read about this has been very positive. Not really bothered with Luke Cage, Jessica Drew or Iron Fist...
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Old 18-04-2015, 11:34   #109
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Finished it now, and yes it's really good. Great to have a superhero grounded much more in reality, who is vulnerable and has to rely on his friends for help. The interactions were all very believable, particularly enjoyed any scenes between Matt and Foggy, especially the ones in the later episodes. Not knowing the slightest thing about the Daredevil character, I quite liked the way that his abilities were slowly explained over the course of episodes.

It sounds like an odd thing to say, but the higher level of violence, swearing and generally more adult tone really makes the show better. Things just work, and everything packs a more believable punch. It shows up the utterly cartoonish aspects of Agents of SHIELD, and even to an extent Agent Carter.

All that said, there were some parts of the show I was less enthused about. Notably, the bad guys. Not Fisk, he was a genuine force and quite captivating to watch; it's nice to see that Marvel are capable of serving up another memorable villain alongside Loki. I'm talking about the other 'bad' characters in particular


The other thing that I took some issue with was the portrayal of the
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Old 18-04-2015, 15:08   #110
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What a great show this has turned out to be. Got the last two to finish but I've enjoyed it immensely so far. Good to see Vondie Curtis Hall again, I've always like him as an actor and for directing one of my favourite movies: Gridlock'd.

What's most surprised me about this show is Fisk, I have no prior knowledge of Kingpin save from the Ben Affleck film, which I haven't seen since its initial release. I was expecting Fisk to be the token merciless bad guy but instead I've found him to be a more flawed human character rather than an all out despicable foil to Murdoch's Daredevil. His villain grounds the show in a more realistic reality for me as opposed to a Loki or Red Skull who lean more on the fantastical.

Looking forward to Marvel's other Netflix outings, I have absolutely no clue who or what those stories are about and I'm quite looking forward to having them tell them.
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A great show lots of positive's to talk about but one that stood out was how they handled the relationships.Elements of romance but it wasn't forced and used for dramatic effect ..something that plagued Smallville and now Arrow/Gotham.

Great casting all round especially Charlie Cox and Vincent D'onofrio who ver both excellent.It felt like a 13hr movie not 13 individual stories and that allowed time to slowly establish the characters.

Also I loved the opening credit's, really well done
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Old 19-04-2015, 16:36   #112
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Finally finished this earlier. Loved it. Not many series finish their first season so fully formed and confident of themselves.
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Old 19-04-2015, 23:02   #113
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Charlie Cox was much better in this than I was expecting.

Up to episode 10 and have enjoyed what I've seen.

You can see the Raid's influence.
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Old 20-04-2015, 07:25   #114
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Also I loved the opening credit's, really well done
Forgot to mention this too....one of the few shows where I can't skip the opening credits play before watching it. Love the music and the visuals fit nicely - but what's going on with the water tower? (isn't that what the second image is, after it shows the justice statue?) I'm assuming I've just completely misinterpreted it...
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Old 20-04-2015, 08:24   #115
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Haha. I'm not the only one who sat through the credits every time then.

Reminds me a lot of the opening titles to Hannibal, but way cooler.
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Old 20-04-2015, 08:29   #116
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Yes, count me as one also confused by the water tower image.
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Water towers are a pretty iconic symbol of NYC. Maybe not as recognised as the Empire State or Brooklyn Bridge but something very integral to its skyline.
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The water tower image exists amongst the images that suggest urban regeneration of Hell's Kitchen. Old to new.

Anyway, I'm going slow as I'm trying to savour it. Episode 4 for me. That end scene. Gratuitous violence in TV is very often over sued as violence porn. This isn't. You feel it without being desensitised by it. It has a purpose and a reality.

A quite quite brilliant episode and what makes this series particularly good is that it's not necessarily about the lead title character.
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