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Old 15-01-2008, 06:00   #1
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Terminator - The Sarah Connor Chronicles 1x02 - Gnothi Seauton *** SPOILERS ***

Episode two. And its still just as good!

So there are others sent back both terminators and humans, I guess that is going to be opening up some more storylines after this episode.

So she died of cancer in 2005 on the original timeline! That will obviously be playing a part in this series.

at Summer Glau's character doing the impersonation! But good to see they are not afraid to kill people off. Still got the good one-liner responses from Summer's character though, could be very funny as the season progresses, or could become a little annoying.

The Terminator head found on the side of the road, eyes start glowing then Terminator in the scrapyard using Chet's head/skin! Something going on there that I am sure will surface soon, the terminator from the pilot I reckon. The guy from the future that was not kill by the other terminator I am sure will be a play a part too very soon.

So Enrique was a rat for the FBI, that bought the FBI guy back into it nicely.

And the trailer for next week, OMG
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Old 15-01-2008, 07:14   #2
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And the trailer for next week, OMG
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Old 15-01-2008, 08:40   #3
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Excellent episode. If they keep this up then a full season order for next year [strikes allowing] should be a cert.

Bringing in a few resistance people/enemy terminators does open up a few plot lines for future episodes but they will need to explain why the past isn't flooded with agents from both sides all fighting over young Connor.

Still think there is more to reveal over Camerons past.

Liking the acting, like watching Glau move like the writing generally but John revisiting the only timeline he's ever had a life reproaching normal was not believable. He goes for a walk to escape the boredom of being cooped up then ends up breaking into ex fiances house. That was poor. Plus surely the man should have reacted to the appearance of a 15 year old boy John and not as the 23 year old man he should have grown into?
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Old 15-01-2008, 09:26   #4
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So she died of cancer in 2005 on the original timeline! That will obviously be playing a part in this series.
I thought I read somewhere that the series follows on from T2 and ignores the events of T3. Therefore, the cancer doesn't have to be worried about if correct.
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We don't really know what happened in the bank after our Heroes jumped to March 2007. There was an explosion which lead the authorities to declare Sarah John and Cameron dead. Why were no questions asked about a lack of evidence from 3 dead bodies. You need a serious explosion to totally destroy human bodies. Plot hole methinks

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And how did they terminator see without a head ?
Is this the geek equivalent of a "my dogs got no nose" joke?

I'm enjoying this so far. Summer does the disjointed acting that she did so well in Firefly and the other cast are doing good as well. Although I must admit the terminator body going off to find it's head was a little bit lame for my taste.
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They're already breaking their own rules, the terminator head being able to make a time jump.
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Old 15-01-2008, 20:14   #9
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They're already breaking their own rules, the terminator head being able to make a time jump.
yeah, that's what got me.

Still, it was another good episode. Anyone else notice the number on the door of the computer store? '1337'
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I assumed that all of the Terminator body jumped into the future.We only got to see the head as it had been blown up so was scattered on arrival.
As much as I like Bionic Woman this is what it should be like with decent action sequences and exciting plot.
Summer's Sex Bot is going to be the breakout character as Sarah Connor's got all the charisma of a piece of cardboard!
Not sure about them going to school though,especially as John could have passed for 18.
Word is the series is getting a name change next season to Terminator High!!

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They're already breaking their own rules, the terminator head being able to make a time jump.
How did I missed that ?

That's AWFUL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's like THE fundamental rule in the whole Terminator mythology.
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I enjoyed this a lot. Am loving Summer Glau and the fact that Sarah knows she might get cancer. Lots of little plot points being laid for the future. Fingers crossed this stays strong and doesn't get cancelled.
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it did have a skin covering when the time machine was activated prior to being zapped by mum /fan****
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But then when it came out it should still have the skin on, and it doesn't have the skin all over it anyway, the spinal column would've been showing.
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I just checked the episode again, frame by frame. It clearly shows the Terminator's head coming off when hit by the gun, skin disappearing instantly, metal skull flying into the time field. Then metal skull flying out in 2007.

Hmmmm.

As much as I love Summer Glau, her performance is remarkably similar to River in Firefly. Not much acting range, I think. And it's strange that she managed to integrate into a high school for a while, but now behaves like she doesn't know how to act human.
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My thoughts on some of the comments.

Before the start of the episode, I thought the remains of the Terminator would be what would lead to the new development of Skynet. But as mentioned, it seemed to have been in a scrapyard which was reactivated once the head arrived 8 years in the future via the time portal. How only the head can travel through time, I can't explain either.

Re Flood of people fighting over John, I think it hinted that each Terminator was sent back for specific missions, just like one was sent back to kill / protect him.

Re Going out, checking out his death and visiting ex-fiance, that did seem a bit stupid. Thought the "clear history" on the computer was a convenient tool but surely someone would have seen his face on the big screen and him in person.

Re Cancer, wasn't that why Sarah went to the hospital at the end?
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Besides the whole terminiator travelling plot hole, I also found it really ridiculous how it managed to get its head back etc.

They've already shown that there are other terminators back there on missions, so why did they need to write in a way for another terminator to be there?
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They could've dropped the whole head traveling time thing and just sent another one. But then that would break their own rule of no one know they are there in 2007 as he supposed to died in 2005. But then who was that going to the hideout and why was he going back?????

If they stuck to the rule that no one knew they are in 2007 then that terminator in the hideout could've changed his objective when he saw Sarah, surely his database would've flagged for someone that important.
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I dont get why the head cant travel? They travel in the first place with skin over an exo skeleton so why not just the exoskeleton on its own?

Am I missing something?
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I dont get why the head cant travel? They travel in the first place with skin over an exo skeleton so why not just the exoskeleton on its own?

Am I missing something?
The rule in Terminator's time traveling is that - Only living organisms can go through travel through time, a Terminator can because its out is surrounded by living skin tissues. It is why they are naked when they come through it.
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