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Old 31-12-2007, 14:44   #1
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Pioneer PDP-428XD Questions

I'm going to buy the Pioneer PDP-428XD or Pioneer PDP-4280XD.

Whats the difference between the two models?

Is it the best Plasma for Blu-ray/HD-DVD and PS3 use?

I currently have a slim "non tilt" wallmount for my Panasonic which is a universal one. Because its only a plasterboard wall i chose this as it uses 18 screws and chaning the wallmount is not an option. Will it fit fine on this?

Is the price likely to drop if I wait till Feb/March?
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Old 31-12-2007, 15:01   #2
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I have a 4280XD and love it.

I would say it is the best plasma in the price-range, but it is a massive difference price-wise to the equivalent Panny - £500 in it - and people say there isn't a massive difference, so I would get them all demoed in a shop first.

Difference between 4280 and 428 are - the more expensive model has:

No stand
An auto-light adjuster (?)
A USB port for photos
Hidden system settings that allow deeper calibration by a professional who knows what he is doing/has special tools - i.e. not me or you ISF-calibration I think it is called.

Review of my set here: http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/Pioneer-PDP4280XD/

The only slight negative I have, is that shadow detail is not as good as I have seen on other sets. This is because of the deep black levels which are impressive, so you have to weigh that up too.

If I were buying now I would probably weigh up that massive price difference between the Pio and the Panny more than I did at the time, but I do not regreat my purchase one bit - top kit. Demo them all though.

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Old 31-12-2007, 16:35   #3
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Cool Lou, thanks for the reply. Do you run 24P on it? Does it really look that smooth?
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I do run both my XE1 and PS3 at 24FPS and it is great yeah.

R1 DVD's especially fare best.

It does take a lot of tweaking to get right though...I've still not got mine perfect.

Best ask Splobber as he was looking at Pioneer's at one stage then chose a Panny (I think) - he might be able to provide a more impartial opinion.
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Cool, I have the money now but I need to build a new PC too so it might have to wait.

I think the extra money for the Pioneer is probably worth it, I always want the best. I wonder if the price will drop at all?
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If you want the best you should be getting the 50" 1080P model
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If you want the best you should be getting the 50" 1080P model
If only my wall would take the 50"
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Best ask Splobber as he was looking at Pioneer's at one stage then chose a Panny (I think) - he might be able to provide a more impartial opinion.
I seriously considered a PDP-LX508 but after looking at that and the Panasonic 50PZ70 I went for the Panny as although the Pioneer is a cracker of a set, it was more than twice the price which is madness when the differences were so subtle I was hard pressed to tell the difference. The 5 year guarantee that Panasonic was offering was just the icing on the cake and made it a no brainer.

It may be the best on paper but when you can get the 50" 1080p Pana for less than the 720p Pio and there is no real disceranble difference between the two 1080p's PQ wise then you have to ask if you really have to spend that much extra. If it were a couple of hundred then I would have prolly gone for the Kuro, but at nigh on 2 thousand pounds more then no. I could upgrade every single piece of my AV kit for that.

24fps is fine on it, not noticed any judder whatsover and I sit around 6 feet from the screen. HD/PS3/360 looks awesome and SD pictures look as good as anything I have seen.
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WTF that Panny cost less than I paid for my 4280XD

Pah it only has 2 HDMI's though so it would have been no good for me *phew*
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A £20 splitter later and I now have 4 ports.

I could have bought either of these panels at trade and the Pioneer was still badly priced in comparison. I paid well under the retail price (around £1500) for the 50PZ70 and that was with a 5 year guarantee too.
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Cheers for the feedback. My bro is getting the Panasonic you've got splobber, I saw them side by side in ASK london running Casino Royale. To be honest I didn't notice the different really like you. Although I am very keen on the 24P feature which I didn't see as I've heard its very nice and smooth.
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It's not worth nigh on £800 though!

As I said, I'm pleased with my set, but would probably have chosen differently now, with the vast price gulf

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Sorry, forgot the more expensive models, have detachable speakers I think, whereas on the 4080XD it is built in...not sure on that one though.
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Will look into that Lou. I don't like the Pioneer design (or the new Panasonic actually). I love my Panasonic PW6 because its speakerless and all 4 edges are the same size.
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