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Old 01-09-2006, 18:34   #1
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HD-DVD?, BLU RAY? - It doesn't matter now!! - Dual player on the way

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good news really as it may allow both formats to flourish. I was going to buy a hd-dvd player (uk nov release) but i think i'll wait now and purchase a PS3 to play my blu ray and get a dual player in 2007 which by that time i hope to have a good selection of Blu Ray material which i can add HD-DVD releases to.

I've never been Pro Blu Ray or HD-DVD; Just wanted a format to win really, this takes out all the "which format should i adopt?" questions that i keep asking myself.
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That's ensured the format war gets dragged out longer.
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Old 01-09-2006, 19:46   #3
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That's ensured the format war gets dragged out longer.
Don't agree
Why can we not have 2 formats?
Playstation, Xbox, Nintendo - Yes i know its different but one gaming powerhouse doesn't dominate. Maybe thats the way the movie industry is going?
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Don't agree
Why can we not have 2 formats?
Because joe public doesn't play his films on a pc drive. Because joe public will not know that you need a BR player if you want to play BR discs and a HDDVD player if you want to play a HD disc and even if he does he won't be buying 2 players.
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dual format players will drag things out. I don't want to be buying both formats anyway.
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even if he does he won't be buying 2 players.
yes but thats my point, its joe public that this dual player is aimed at. We all know the in and outs, pros and cons of hd-dvd and blu ray. I admit selling high def dvd to the masses will be very difficult. I still personally think the HD-DVD (Paying attention to the dvd bit in that) is a huge head start for that format, just beacuse of the name. I mean Blu Ray to 99.99% of the public is still alien, i wonder how many people know what UMD is?
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I admit selling high def dvd to the masses will be very difficult.
and this kind of thing isn't going to help.
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Old 01-09-2006, 22:42   #8
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Hooray another $ to £ conversion!
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Sorry, but ... £999 for the Samsung player!?

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Old 02-09-2006, 07:25   #10
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To get back to the original topic, this burner looks great - but it will only read HD-DVD, not write it.

However, the fact that one of the major partners of Blu-Ray is acknowledging HD-DVD in any way is surely VERY significant? I believe it's only a matter of time before there are dual HD-DVD/Blu-Ray burners.
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Dual player rumour denied.
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Do people think that a dual player would be an advantage or should we just wait until one side drops out?

We currently have competing formats in the DVD-/+R business, but since most players are now dual format capable it means that most folk don't mind which they are playing. I think that a dual-format player would avoid the format war coming to a crashing end with one side admitting defeat and thus leaving all those who have brought into it with all but useless discs and players.

Case study: A sort of dual-format exists in the console games market. Imagine if someone released a gaming console that played both Playstation and X-box discs (and for the sake of argument, let you use either type of controller); for the same price you suddenly get twice as many games and provided it is the same price as one of the existing consoles then there is no reason why you wouldn't want to get one.
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It depends, if dual format becomes a standard in all hardware then it's ok.
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Also Xbox, PS and Nintendo have their own rabid fan base. For many people choosing a console is a style choice. It's not just about the convenience of having one console and being able to play all games.
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Indeed, and WHY have we still got DVD-R and DVD+R

Wasn't +R supposed to replace -R

I know +R is more "Technically" advanced, better error correction etc I seem to recall, and all you end up with are endless "should I buy -R or +R questions"
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They became interchangeable. Both disks could work on both sets of players. This will not happen with HD-DVD and Blu-Ray - certainly not for a long, long while.
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Also Xbox, PS and Nintendo have their own rabid fan base. For many people choosing a console is a style choice. It's not just about the convenience of having one console and being able to play all games.
I know that, hence my point about the controllers, but I don't think that there is much fan base for the DVD formats, especially not among the general public at this early stage. By introducing a dual-format player early on, it would avoid the 'format war' which I think would scare away some potential buyers.
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They became interchangeable. Both disks could work on both sets of players. This will not happen with HD-DVD and Blu-Ray - certainly not for a long, long while.
Why not? Certainly if the cost of a dual-player is not substantially more than a regular player I think it would be a lot more desirable (I think a lot of people are waiting either for one format to win, at least to see which format gets the better films).
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Can you imagine the total mess this is going to be in shops.

Hello, I'd like to buy Terminator 3 for my BluRay player.
Sorry sir, that's only on HD-DVD Format.

Next Customer.

Hello, I'd like buy Monsters inc on HD-DVD.
Sorry sir, that's only out on BluRay.

What a bloody mess!

(I just picked those titles out the air as examples)

Serve them right if we all boycotted them until they sort this out.
Having to buy 2 players just to make sure you can watch all the movies.
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Old 05-09-2006, 23:14   #20
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I am only interested in a dual format player or one comes the winner. I can't see why they cannot co-exist. Then, the films will just come out on the format they chose and just have one player that does the lot. Then, I will know I will be able to play any HD format disc.

Also, if Blu Ray fails, will Sony then start making HD-DVD discs and players. There is a lot of Sony/Columbia Tristar films and they will have to be released on something.
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