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Old 29-12-2004, 18:10   #1
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The LCD TV buying thread.

LCD TV buying guide

Wording stolen entirely from the plasma TV buying thread. Suggested by Mods to start this thread.
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Its an idea I had the other day when looking to buy a LCD TV. I did loads of web searches and spent an age just looking on here and AV Forums - but the info, whilst being very helpful, is spread over numerous different posts and questions.

So I came up with the idea of a one stop post for potential LCD buyers and owners.

The idea is that ALL members of LCD TVs post here regards there set(s) and there buying experiances - let other members learn from your experiances and find out potential pitfalls of what is a rather expensive purchase.

If owners could post ...................

Details of there set, inc. Size of screen and video inputs etc
How set is mounted
Picture quality
Problems you have had
Where is was purchased from, how much and how easy it was to buy

A picture would also be nice

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Old 29-12-2004, 18:14   #2
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I'll start the ball rolling.

I bought for £1249 a Sharp GA4 32" LCD with a resolution of 1366 x 768 (I think!)

It came from flatdeal.com and included delivery. Desktop stand was included.

It's mounted on top of an existing stand. Sky+ is connected via scart and via a Toshiba XS32 DVD recorder.

DVD is taken care of by a Denon 1910 connected via DVI and using upscaling at 720p (progressive scan). 1080i is available but I've settled on 720p as 1080i would only really create a few more lines anyway.

Pictures to follow.

In practice the screen is excellent. Plus points as follows:

1. Superb PQ from DVD. No smearing, no motion blur.
2. Very Good Sky picture.
3. Excellent sound. No real need for surround as a result.
4. Free 3 year warranty.
5. Great price.
6. Screen size only 3 cm off a 36" CRT in true measurement terms.

Cons:

1. Needs careful setting up to get perfect contrast etc but once done it can be forgotten about.
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Old 31-12-2004, 20:25   #3
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6. Screen size only 3 cm off a 36" CRT in true measurement terms.
what exactly do you mean by this CLH ?

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Old 31-12-2004, 20:56   #4
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what exactly do you mean by this CLH ?
With CRT TV's you don't get the full viewable 36" screen but a bit less, but with LCD TV's you get the full size, so CLH will see all of the LCD 32" screen.
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Old 31-12-2004, 23:46   #5
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With CRT TV's you don't get the full viewable 36" screen but a bit less, but with LCD TV's you get the full size, so CLH will see all of the LCD 32" screen.
Indeed. The Panasonic I had "measured" 36inches so near enough 86cm. In fact only 83 diagonal was visible. On the LCD 81 diagonal is visible. Enough so as to make no difference at all.
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Old 29-12-2004, 18:18   #6
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Oooh, could be useful, will be looking for a LCD panel soon (would have been this month but got my DVD Recorder instead!)

Personally I'm after a TV for use in the bedroom, has to be wall mountable. I'm looking at the 22" Sharp at the moment, but its only low res and no component
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edited.
posted in the wrong bloody thread lol.

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Old 29-12-2004, 18:38   #8
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I was looking at getting a plasma but since hearing about the Sharp GA4, it's the one I now want, just a shame that it's being discontinued. I don't want the GA5 as it doesn't have a DVI connection.
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You'd be well advised in that respect Dan. There is a rumour that a) the GA4 will continue to be made and b) there might be a GA6 (effectively a GA4) with DVI.

I cannot see Sharp making this retrograde step.

The Toshiba sets are also held in very high regard.
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Old 29-12-2004, 19:27   #10
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Any chance of a couple of pics of your TV in action CLH?
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yeah,show us your kit lol.im interested in whayou have.or is that just nosey lol.
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Old 29-12-2004, 19:35   #12
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Will take some shortly.

Basically I run:

Sky+ into Toshiba RD-XS32 via RGB scart.

RGB out from Toshiba RD-XS32 into LCD panel.

Separate Denon 1910 DVD player connected via (HDCP) DVI-DVI on the LCD panel.
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I'm looking at buying a panel too in the next few months so this thread will be useful.

Interested in the Tosh 27WL46P which can be had for around £750 which I think has HDCP / DVI.

I'm new to the whole hidef thing... only have freeview at the moment which I use for 95% of viewing (via my Tivo box - which I assume I would just connect via RGB to get the best signal?) and a DVD without prog scan player for the other 5%.

I'm interested in the Home Theater PC idea but not sure what the costs are. I assume you basically get yourself a PC, add a freview card and some kind of video card which has a DVI output? What's the minimum CPU speed you would need for such a PC? And how would this integrate with my much loved Tivo (or would I bin that and use some kind of PVR software on the HTPC?)

LCD prices seem to be really crashing at the moment, can't help but think I should wait another 3 or 4 months before buying.

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Old 31-12-2004, 18:39   #14
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Goodmans LD2601 26" LCD

Got the Goodmans 26" from Comet for £699. This was bought for size then quality as its only for the bedroom.

The installl:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-...3/DSCF0007.JPG
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-...3/DSCF0012.JPG

The Back:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-...3/DSCF0010.JPG

Shes Up:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-...3/DSCF0014.JPG

(This is all done in a rush and are all limited to 120k so a bit blocky. Thats not what its realy like )

Best Pic so far:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-...3/DSCF0022.JPG

(If anyone can upload this pic in its 2mb form please message me so peeps can get a better look but my camera just dont capture what i see)

Obviously they look better than this but you get an idea.


My quick Review

Build Quality 8/10
Nothing nasty all sound.

Picture 7/10 (Should go up.Im only using £1.99 scart lead from Azda)
Not perfect but fine for what i want. Overall im very pleased. If i test it with Component/Pc i know this will be better.

Sound 6/10
The usualy built in quality that can not touch my dedicated set up in my cinema room.

Connectivity 8/10
Scarts dont do RGB ( Not that i can see anyway )
Looking forward to using the Component conections

Value for money 9/10

Instilation
10/10 could not have been better
Used this £29.99 bracket. Great value for money
http://av-sales.co.uk/html/lcd_mounts.html


Overall 8/10
Very pleased. Nothing buggin me at the moment.

Conclusion
If your after a nice screen for the bedroom buy it. If your after a main TV for home cinema look around more if you can afford more.
I was personaly looking for 22" LCD for £500-600 but i didnt think 22" would be enough so wanted 26"/27" for a little more dosh. This is exactly what i wanted. Was going for the Tosh but now glad i was messed about with delivery.

Other Stuff
Im using a Phillips VL1400 Wireless TV Link to get Sky to the TV. Great bit of kit and picture quality using this is like its fed from the sky box itself.
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ah right.just for a minute i thought he was saying he was getting 35inch of screen from a 32 inch set lol.
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Ok some more useful info:


1. DVI/HDMI : the digital scart as they're now called. DVI is the oldest and carries video only, HDMI is newer and can carry audio as well. These are nigh on essential because a) they support upscaling and b) they will support hi-def including Sky's hi-def service. They must be HDCP compliant, most are getting that way but make sure.

2. Screen response: getting better. 16nms and 12nms are now common. Buy the fastest response time you can get.
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Any set up hints/tips CLH? My Sharp GA4 has been dispatched so should hopefully be here next week - what sorts of things do I need to look out for when setting it up?
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Any set up hints/tips CLH? My Sharp GA4 has been dispatched so should hopefully be here next week - what sorts of things do I need to look out for when setting it up?
Can I come round your house when it's setup as i'm probably going to get one myself?
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Decent cables. No need to break the bank but make sure they are a good fit. QED AV scarts work well and fit well. You might find that you cannot put the back panel back on. I wouldn't worry about it.

If you want to use component then a good set of leads for that as well. I think you need to run another scart into AV3 for the sound.

As for settings I generally use neutral or negative backlight figures and keep the brightness and contrast fairly low (+10 or below).

Soundwise go for +15 treble and +14 bass.

On the advanced features select progressive in i/o mode. Also make sure the noise processing is set to high and quick shoot set to on.
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Spooksta,

get some DVI into that thing!!!

Also you might want to consider an RGB component convertor if you're running Sky into it for example?
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