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Old 28-02-2012, 22:44   #301
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Nah, I liked Clones, it worked for me on lots of levels. The bit where they're all tied up on stakes towards the end reminded me of that bit where they're all together again in Jedi and it all sort of clicked there when I saw it. And the end is superb, that last 30 mins or so is pure Star Wars.

Remembering the first time I saw it, the girl I was seeing at the time hated Star Wars, she hated TPM and was going to hate Clones, but that bit where he jumps out the window at the start actually made her go WTF and she loved it from then on in.

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Old 03-03-2012, 10:46   #302
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Clones is a collection of great (and not-so-great) scenes and moments amateurly thrown together to make an incoherent, ploddy mess. The pacing just doesn't feel at all right for most of the movie, but the last 20-30 minutes are still great.

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If I built a house above a lava pit, the first thing I'd install is a large button that lowered my house into the lava.
Eh? That didn't happen at all. The facility on Mustafa had an energy field around it that protected it from lava. In the duel, a console got damaged and it disabled the shields.

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Also if I'd travelled to a planet in a starship, naturally I'd get around the planet on the back of a dinosaur
What about the banthas in the original Star Wars film?
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Old 03-03-2012, 12:10   #303
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I won't deny the pacing is all over the shop in Clones but I still like it.

As for dinosaurs, that's like saying 'I flew on a plane to get on holiday so I refuse to use a bike while there'. People still ride horses!

and who honestly wouldn't get around a planet on a dinosaur if they could!
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Old 03-03-2012, 19:44   #304
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One thing I like about prequel Obi-Wan is that he doesn't dig technology all that much, so him finding any excuse to ride around on a beastie is consistent with the character.

It always amuses me when people list their problems with the prequels and said problems are actually explained in the films, or just take the barest hint of common sense to work out.

(That's what ****** me off about the Red Letter Media reviews; for every valid point there's a piece of stupid nitpickery that can be explained in 2 seconds. But hey, it all counts because it's attacking that evil Mr Luca$! Huzzah!)
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Old 03-03-2012, 21:30   #305
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One thing I like about prequel Obi-Wan is that he doesn't dig technology all that much, so him finding any excuse to ride around on a beastie is consistent with the character.

It always amuses me when people list their problems with the prequels and said problems are actually explained in the films, or just take the barest hint of common sense to work out.

(That's what ****** me off about the Red Letter Media reviews; for every valid point there's a piece of stupid nitpickery that can be explained in 2 seconds. But hey, it all counts because it's attacking that evil Mr Luca$! Huzzah!)
Ok why build a million robots that jar jar blinks can kill, but only one general grievous?
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Old 03-03-2012, 22:10   #306
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Easy: Grievous is a cyborg, not a droid built on an assembly line.
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Old 03-03-2012, 22:13   #307
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Some of the problem with the prequels is the way the characters just come and go. You introduce a character like Grevious with no story to who he is or why he is (I'm talking about the films, I know it's in some of the cartoons) and then kill him off in the same film.

Same almost for Jango/Boba Fett. Why was he not in Episode 3 at all? His inclusion in 2 almost seems completely pointless.
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Easy: Grievous is a cyborg, not a droid built on an assembly line.
Was that explained in the directors cut?
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Old 03-03-2012, 23:21   #309
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Some of the problem with the prequels is the way the characters just come and go. You introduce a character like Grevious with no story to who he is or why he is (I'm talking about the films, I know it's in some of the cartoons) and then kill him off in the same film.

Same almost for Jango/Boba Fett. Why was he not in Episode 3 at all? His inclusion in 2 almost seems completely pointless.
That's one of my biggest gripes with the prequels. There's a lack of continuity between all three movies that's really jarring. Characters come and go in the OT, to be sure, but it's not the 'revolving door' aspect of the prequels.

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Was that explained in the directors cut?
If you watch the film you can clearly see his organic reptile-looking eyes in his 'face', not to mention the pulsing sack of vital organs which Obi-Wan shoots. Did you think that the cough he has was just a programming error? Like I said, it amuses me when stuff like this is either not noticed or flat-out ignored. You're not Mr Plinkett are you?

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Oh and Darth Maul. If you were a cynical person you could say that Maul was purely in the film to sell toys etc. as it was a bit odd to introduce a potentially cool character only to then kill him off. There aren't many such occurrences in the OT.
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Was that explained in the directors cut?
the beating heart and the eyes are a giveaway. Personally they should have had Darth Maul as a consistent Villain through all 3 films.
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Old 03-03-2012, 23:58   #312
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Yes but Obi-Wan had to kill him to show his bad assery, and part of his final training as a padawan.
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My main problem with the prequals is the dialogue.

Painful for the most part.

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Ralph McQuarrie has passed away A great visionary. RIP
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RIP. I'm going to leaf through my Vader and ESB picture books today and remind myself of his stellar work.

He looked really unwell on Empire of Dreams and that was eight years ago.

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Oh and Darth Maul. If you were a cynical person you could say that Maul was purely in the film to sell toys etc. as it was a bit odd to introduce a potentially cool character only to then kill him off. There aren't many such occurrences in the OT.
Boba Fett doesn't do an awful lot before his (rubbish) death. He's a fan favourite like Maul, simply because he looks and sounds cool.

Also the rest of the bounty hunters aboard the Executor (Bossk, IG-88, Zuckuss and Dengar ) have had many action figures and collectibles made in their image over the years and they had about half a second of screentime each.

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I spent a very, very long time watching Star Wars straining for a glimpse of the 'power droid' figure I'd bought. And yes, Boba Fett was massively hyped around the Empire time - I remember waiting ages to meet him at a toy store.

Looking back, I'm not convinced it was really him. Shop was packed out though.

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Oh and Darth Maul. If you were a cynical person you could say that Maul was purely in the film to sell toys etc. as it was a bit odd to introduce a potentially cool character only to then kill him off. There aren't many such occurrences in the OT.
I'm sure I read somewhere that they killed Maul off because they didn't want him to be a bigger/better/more memorable bad-guy than Vader.
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Seems unlikely that he ever would be seeing as Vader was linked to Luke etc.
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