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Old 11-02-2012, 11:34   #281
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What about the actual guy doing the CGI to add Greedo's shot? If that was me I'd refuse to do it, and tell Lucas what a **** idea it was.

Imagine being the guy who actually had to do that work, he must feel proud of his contribution to the SW universe!
He'd sack him and get someone else
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Old 11-02-2012, 12:45   #282
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I wonder if they make it look **** on purpose, in the hope that Lucas sees it and changes his mind. Same for the R2 rocks in Beggar's Canyon, it looks unbelievably Godawful. ILM can do so much better.
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Old 11-02-2012, 13:54   #283
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The thing I take umbrage at is the constant..."This is how we wanted to do it in '77 but we did not have the time or the money then" arsery that GL spouts about it all.

If he wanted to be clear that Greedo shoots first, that there were more rocks at Beggar's Canyon, and that Vader wails 'NOOOOOOOOOOO!' then he should have written it that way. It would not have cost more (it would have totalled a whole lot less actually, in the long run) to get it the way he wanted it in the first place. He was the creator and main writer/story-contributor - not to mention director - of the (4 of the 6) films, and yet he proves time-and-again that he cannot even write the films the way he himself wants them written!

The fact that these changes have been made and do nothing to add anything beneficial to the story...and in most cases it has been done to the detriment of the films in general, prove that GL has done them just because he can, and because he wants to.

And for no other reason that I can see.

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Old 12-02-2012, 12:52   #284
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My eldest daughter is going to the flicks ith her BF next week to see TPM in 3d.

Im devasted to have raised such a dumb kid.



Id happily go and see Empire, the only one of the OT I didnt see at the cinema on time of release.

(actually saw ATOC and ROTS too altho they arent as bad as TPM)
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Old 12-02-2012, 13:28   #285
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My eldest daughter is going to the flicks ith her BF next week to see TPM in 3d.

Im devasted to have raised such a dumb kid.
Well that's an early contender for "quote of the year" in next year's forum awards!
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Old 12-02-2012, 13:35   #286
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My eldest daughter is going to the flicks ith her BF next week to see TPM in 3d.

Im devasted to have raised such a dumb kid.
Chin up, fella. She may yet come home and say 'Dad, it was pure crap' and you can open a couple of cans and put on Auf Wiedersehen Pet, Series 2 and bond in style.

I'm rooting for ya!
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Old 12-02-2012, 17:25   #287
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I could try that, but thanks to my hammering of the boxsets over the years they know all the quotes almost as well as me McD.


Ta ra for a bit.
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Old 13-02-2012, 21:05   #288
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From the book, written by the man himself:


Light and noise filled the little corner of the cantina, and when it had faded, all that remained of the unctuous alien was a smoking, slimy spot on the stone floor.

Solo brought his hand and the smoking weapon it held out from beneath the table, drawing bemused stares from several of the cantina’s patrons and clucking sounds from its more knowledgeable ones. They had known the creature had committed its fatal mistake in allowing Solo the chance to get his hands under cover.
I think the novelization was written by Alan Dean Foster, with George Lucas's name on it. Quite an interesting move actually -- he commissioned the novelization really early in the production process and it was released 6 months before the movie came out, which built up lots of hype amongst the sci-fi/comicbook fan community when they otherwise might have dismissed Star Wars.

There have been so many published scripts for Star Wars, it's impossible to know exactly what version of the script they shot the Greedo scene from. Alan Dean Foster had a pretty old version of the script to write his book from. However, I've looked at a few different published drafts of the script and they all have stage notes that describe Han blowing Greedo away with a surprise blast of light and noise.

George Lucas... the man who decided Darth Vader would be Luke's father whilst drafting story ideas for The Empire Strikes Back, but says it was the essential story of Anakin Skywalker from day 1. George Lucas... the man who decided Leia was Luke's sister whilst drafting story ideas for Return of the Jedi, but says it was part of the plan all along. Great incestuous snog in TESB then!

The man is a genuine certified eccentric now.
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Old 28-02-2012, 09:35   #289
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I haven't watched these films since the prequels were released on DVD, so I think I'll give this a go ...

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Old 28-02-2012, 10:06   #290
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I've always liked Phantom Menace, but the one thing that's always bothered me is how it barely relates to the rest of the saga. As full of the usual anti-prequel/SE bile that that site is, matey's got a point.
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Old 28-02-2012, 17:02   #291
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Never understood the hate for phantom compared to the other two, in my opinion they get worse. Worse scripts and acting, stupider sequences. I mean why whinge about the script and acting of phantom menace above the revenge of the with sith.

Just watched all the blus, up to Jedi now!
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Old 28-02-2012, 17:10   #292
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Agree with that. AOTC is an absolute shocker, and ROTS is a total pantomime. I can't be the only one who thinks Ian McDiarmid is completely awful with the hamming it up?
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The Phantom Menace is also the one prequel that doesn't look or feel like a video game. It's my least favourite though because it's just a pretty dull film really, it's no deeper than that....
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Phantom is my favourite out of the prequels, no idea why but I actually feel like I'm watching a Star Wars movie with TPM. Don't get me wrong, they're all *****, but at least I can still watch TPM, it feels like it still has some soul to it, at least it does to me. The other two I can't even sit through now, utter gubbins.

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Old 28-02-2012, 18:25   #295
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After buying the full boxset I actually feel pretty ****** off how I and lots of others were conned into it. Given the choice again I would've just bought the original trilogy only set and thought to hell with the (lack of) extras on the full set.
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Old 28-02-2012, 19:34   #296
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Phantom is my favourite out of the prequels, no idea why but I actually feel like I'm watching a Star Wars movie with TPM. Don't get me wrong, they're all *****, but at least I can still watch TPM, it feels like it still has some soul to it, at least it does to me. The other two I can't even sit through now, utter gubbins.
That's how i feel about AOTC. For me that's the closet out of the 3 that feels like a Star Wars film. It's also the only one where the positives outweigh the negatives (for me at least anyway)

-Anikin and everything about him, the acting, the dialog etc

+ The Yoda fight
+ The great land battle
+ Jar Jar being virtually written out of the trilogy
+ Ian McDiarmid being a total snake and not ruining it by the awful overacting in the 3rd movie.
+ Natalie Portman looking amazingly hot!

For me AOTC was a bit of a comeback after the crushing disappointment of TPM
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Old 28-02-2012, 20:48   #298
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Complete opposite for me. Clones is a disaster on almost every level, whereas Phantom Menace still has the slightest dusting of old-school Star Wars magic, which counts for a lot in my book.
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Same, absolutely hate Clones.
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Good bits and bad bits in all of them, personally TPM has the best bits, Darth Maul, QUi Gon, Pod racing. My point was that I don't think any of them can be held up as a shining example whilst t the same time claiming another was unworthy of watching ever again.

Except for ROTS, that was awful. Just didn't make any real sense and too many WTF moments.

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