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Old 04-08-2011, 12:01   #41
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Yeah, I can't see them keeping the non-linear structure from the book, they'll adapt books 4&5 together and maybe even the end/beginning of books 2&3&4 as well (which IIRC overlap time-wise).
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Old 05-08-2011, 13:03   #42
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Just read Dany IX.
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I finished a couple of weeks ago, as luckily ADWD came out just in time for my holiday.


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Well have gotten to P500 now and I have to admit it is picking up for me.
Still can't believe I haven't finished it yet though! Under normal circumstances it would not last a week but I am struggling for time to read it.
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Old 08-08-2011, 13:18   #46
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I finished it late last night, and really enjoyed it overall. It's a far better read that Feast, but it doesn't quite match up to the earlier novels. At points, the story seems to be rushing forward with great action and twists, but then there are long sections where the plot just seems to be standing still.



One thing I'm glad still exists is Martin's wonderful writing style. He has a flair for scene setting and really putting you in the moment, going utterly visceral when need be.

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Read it all over the last week in Tenerife (finished half an hour before our pickup for the flight home.)

Pretty much agree with your summary above, LeftHandedGuitarist.



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89% through, according to Kindle! I've mostly only been reading on the tube journey to and from work and I'm not the fastest reader in any case.

Looking forward to coming back here and discussing it!
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Finished this last night.
I agree with the reviews/comments above
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Okay, just finished. I forgot about the bloody sections at the back about the houses so when Kindle said I was 91% through or whatever the epilogue started.




Question RE:Stannis for those who've read the whole book:
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The main question I'm left with:
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Old 21-08-2011, 16:49   #56
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I partially agree with the comments made above but I'm not sure we did 'tread water' any more than in other books. I'm reminded of how long it took Arya to get to The Twins and then the Red Wedding happened, for example.
While there's no more treading water than in other books, the story is reaching a stage now where we're all looking for things to start moving properly on the whole Battle for Westeros/Battle against the Others front, but instead we're still getting chapter-after-chapter showing us how you can't travel one mile in this world without getting assaulted, murdered or kidnapped.[/spoiler]

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LHG, the Jamie chapter couldn't have happened in AFFC because Brienne is hanged at the end of that. Now we know she was either saved or (more probably?) an animated corpse, presumably with Catelyn having given over her 'gift'.
It's not certain whether Brienne was killed at the end of AFFC because she screamed out a word just as it started. I personally don't think she's undead because Zombie Catelyn clearly has a purpose to exact revenge so there's no real impetus to give Brienne her "breathe" (or whatever it's called), plus there seemed no indications that she was undead when she met with Jaime (her scars from Biter were all that was mentioned regarding her appearance iirc).

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The Jon chapter. Oh god. That was horrific. I don't know about him still being alive in the normal sense. Maybe he'll be reanimated by Melisandre, or maybe she left to prepare for him to survive somehow?
Yeah I'm thinking he will be saved by Mellisandre (or possibly Edd/Val/Tormund), but I'm dreading the thought that he could be forever "altered" by her magic (but then there's the possiblity that Jon will react differently to Rhaellor's fire magic than ordinary people and it may have some sort of affinity towards him specifically).

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Also, how is Stannis dead but Theon and Jayne still missing? That's the weirdest part of it. Maybe something else is going on.
They could have slipped out of Stannis' camp during the battle, but in any case I think there's a chance Stannis is still alive because wasn't it the Manderly and Frey hosts that Roose Bolton sent out against Stannis's host?? We know the Manderlys are secretely plotting against Bolton, so they could have helped Stannis defeat the Frey host and then returned to Winterfell with false information and false proof that Stannis has been defeated.

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The sounds of drums they heard in Winterfell that they assumed were Stannis were actually someone who I thought was in Winterfell with the Boltons. Is that not correct? I feel like I'm losing track.
That could possibly have been either Mance Rayner's group or Manderly's men.

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Wouldn't Theon have told Stannis about Karstark?
Yup, you have Theon already in Stannis's camp and the Manderlys approaching so there is definitely opportunity for Stannis to have survived the Bolton assault with the upper hand to spread misinformation.

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Does anyone know where this is leading? I mean by not having a single hero or a 'quest' of any sort we're left completely unsure what Martin sees as his finalé.
I think Rhaegar's prophecy that Daenerys witnessed in The House of the Undying in A Dance with Dragons is the key to the coming war. We saw Rhaegar state that he needed three children because "the dragon has three heads", and Daenerys took that to infer that her forces would be complete when she has a rider for each of her dragons. These three riders will help turn the tide against the others, we've now got confirmation that Daenrys is one of the riders and we also know that Rhaegar believed Aegon would be one of the "heads" as well.

The question is now is whether Aegon will play such a pivotal role in the story given he was introduced so late, and if not: who will be the other two "heads"? Personally I'm fairly convinced as to who one of the other heads is, (The revelation in this book that Elia couldn't bear children after Aegon pretty much confirmed it for me) but I'm not certain whether the third one will be Aegon or not.

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Finally finished the thing.

I think it did drag out a bit but overall well written, Arya sections being the best.

Can now read some of the thread!
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I am looking forward to being able to read it without swathes of black!
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I would have finished sooner but I started right back at the beginning!
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I am looking forward to being able to read it without swathes of black!
Same.

Everytime there is a post in the thread, I come and look at it, even though I know most of them are going to be spoilers that I can't read
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