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Old 16-02-2011, 10:53   #1
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Were DVD-Rs ever used in production runs of retail DVDs?

I've just had my first ever episode with regards to selling on eBay. I sold my eight year old Futurama Series 2 boxset. I've had it returned to me because two of the discs are gold in colour. The other two in the set are silver. The labels on the disc are clearly a screen-print, certainly not inkjet.

Now I can't remember where I bought this from, seeing as I'll have bought it at or around release time in November 2002 - but it was probably somebody like Amazon, Play.com or CD-Wow. It is the British Region 2 release, the box has a plastic sleeve - I don't question that its real.

On closer inspection I can see the two gold discs in question are branded Ritek - who looking at their website only seem to produce DVD-Rs and not pressed DVDs. I can't see another indications to confirm the disc is a DVD-R (or +R or any other possibility - just the logo and a long stream of digits).

So do I have two DVD-Rs in my set, or was it just a case the production run of the DVDs was spread over two factories that used different suppliers? If it were fake, surely all the discs would be identical? Is it realistic to expect that occasionally with high demand producers would turn to writing the discs rather than pressing them?
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Old 16-02-2011, 11:05   #2
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just check my old set and they have futurama disc art on them, simular to the outside of the case. I think you have some DVD-r's
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Old 16-02-2011, 11:16   #3
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Not necessarily, it can depend on whether a disc or dual layered or not. A single layered DVD will be silver on the readable side, whereas a dual layer disc will be gold.

Also, DVD-R discs are almost always purple on the readable side, I've never never seen a gold coloured DVD-R.

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Old 16-02-2011, 12:22   #4
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Its dual layered, fully screen printed labels - all extremely professional and high quality. I'm not saying they're clearly DVD-Rs - I'm having to squint to see the tiny Ritec logo printed close to the hole in the middle. Like I say I bought these new and never questioned them - and I doubt the fakes at the time were up to the standard they are now.
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Old 16-02-2011, 12:24   #5
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Well personally I would expect it to be purple on the bottom if it was a DVD-R, especially having bought quite a few of the Ritek ones over the years.
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are you able to post a pic of both sides of the disc for us to see?

all DVD-R are certainly not purple.
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Old 16-02-2011, 12:59   #7
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In fact its only in looking this closely I've realised that the logo is there twice, and that the code say A01 and B02 - I guess the logo has been printed at that layer in the disc?

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to me they certainly dont look like fakes.

let me look into it more and come back
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Old 16-02-2011, 13:15   #9
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Wasn't there a site where you could type in the code on blank media and it would let you know the manufacturer, etc?
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Ritek are the biggest disc manufacturer on the planet so why wouldn't they be involved in supplying pressed retail discs? I'm pretty sure they even have a sub-division that encodes and authors for distributors.

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Looks pretty genuine to me.
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I've had several DVD sets over the years where the discs have had a mixture of gold and silver surfaces. If that's the only basis on which the buyer has returned the set then they're a pillock. Yes there's a Ritek logo, but since when were they not allowed to produce pressed media?

That looks every bit like a professionally replicated DVD. So I'd say that it is.

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buyer is surley quite anal then when it comes to buying discs.

next time ask him what colour he prefers
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Old 16-02-2011, 15:30   #14
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I don't think you get the gold colour discs anymore, so if they're quite young/don't have many old discs they might not have seen them before.

Discs 2 & 4 in my Futurama Season 2 set are the gold variety. One has a Ritek C4 logo, the other has a Deluxe logo.
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As I thought then, I guess it was just there was a limited number of manufacturers at the time when the market was growing rapidly - so disc production was spread around a bit. Thanks all
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I don't see why he'd care that much. They look fine to me, not like you've done it yourself. Why would you send him a box-set with only two pirated discs (I assume that's the implication)?
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Gold discs tended to be dual layer and silver single layer in the old days, always seem to be silver now, so maybe different production methods now.
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