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Old 06-01-2009, 22:31   #261
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The Black Magician trilogy is okay, but they are written for teenagers.
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Old 06-01-2009, 22:47   #262
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enjoyed the Farseer Trilogy followed by the Tawnyman Trilogy by Robin Hobb

The Black Magician trilogy by Trudi Canavan to me.
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If you havnt read David Gemmell get the Druss books, there pretty good.

Also Raymond E Feist books are pretty tasty though well read thesedays.
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:24   #263
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Personally, i also really enjoyed the Farseer Trilogy followed by the Tawnyman Trilogy by Robin Hobb, although they're abit 'nicer' in some ways than ASOIAF as the author isn't as ruthless with the characters as George RR Martin often is.
Five of the six books are good, but the third Farseer is just a meandering and depressing mess. I was apprehensive starring Tawny Man after that but was pleasantly surprised that she'd got her 'mojo' back. I wouldn't have said she's less ruthless, but Martin is running so many major characters he can afford to knock a few off every now and again.
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:55   #264
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Sorry its not released yet although I have pre-ordered with Amazon for April!

Got a holiday coming up in Feb and no books to take with me. Can anyone recommend some other books similar in style to both this and Joe Abercrombies stuff, preferably available in paperback?
If you like Martin and Abercrombie, then I'd recommend Scott Lynch and R. Scott Bakker too. Bakker's deeper and darker, while Lynch's two Locke Lamora books are fast, fun adventures and maybe better suited as a holiday read IMO.
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Thanks for the advice all have gone for the Farseer Trilogy and the 2 Scott Lynch books based on reviews I have read.

Should keep me going till George Martin pulls his finger out!
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:53   #266
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I've just started the Farseer books too - got the first one for Xmas. Only a few pages in but I like the style so far...
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Is the A Dance with Dragons still going to be released in April or is it likely to change again? Some of the characters and concepts are fading in my memory a little bit, I hate to think how long it will be until the next one is ready!

Any more news on the HBO show too? I scoured his site but doesn't look like much if anything has changed in months.
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Nothing's been confirmed on the release date - it's just guesswork from Amazon and the other stores. GRRM has said he'll announce on his blog when it's completed, and only then will we know. There's been no official update since Jan 1st 2008 and only the odd brief mention in his blog since then...

Edit: Oh, and for all the latest on the HBO pilot, keep an eye on http://winter-is-coming.blogspot.com/ and on the dedicated forums on the Westeros site. There's plenty of activity, especially on the latter where the producers are posting and listening casting recommendations from fans!

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I've just started the Farseer books too - got the first one for Xmas. Only a few pages in but I like the style so far...
The first two are some of the best fantasy literature I've read, a great balance between a clever world view, characters, pace and plotting. I should read them again as it's possible the third one is a lot better on second reading.
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Just re-reading the books in preparation for the new book. I can't wait!
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Old 08-01-2009, 16:03   #271
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The first two are some of the best fantasy literature I've read, a great balance between a clever world view, characters, pace and plotting. I should read them again as it's possible the third one is a lot better on second reading.
The third book was my favourite, I couldn't put it down. The second one I struggled with.
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The third book was my favourite, I couldn't put it down. The second one I struggled with.
Strange. Everyone else I know who read Farseer felt the same way. It just seemed so meandering and above all so much more depressing than the other two, though the Tawny Man at least reversed that a ways.
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Old 20-03-2009, 09:07   #273
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I am only maybe a third through Book III part 1, so I have a hope that the next book will be out by the time I finish the fourth! I'm also looking forward to reading through this thread. Right now I'm too scared of an accidental spoiler.
Well that was a futile hope. Just finished book four.

Can't say I felt it was much of a drop in quality from the others. As before we had a lot of build up to the last two or three character pieces where all the 'meat' was. Great stuff.
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read on a blog of his that his latest estimate is complete writing ADWD by June, published by sept-oct 09.

But all of this has happened. and all of this will happen again.
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On a brighter note, the pilot episode of the TV show starts shooting in Ireland in October.
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One can only hope it's better than the series "based" (and I use that term loosely) on Terry Goodkind's books - Legend of the Seeker. Talk about completely ripping out the essence of a series... "sell-out" is bandied around all too often, but considering Goodkind's involvement in the show, I don't think there can be a better label for him.
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The script has been made widely available across the internet and the reviews I've read of it suggest its near word-for-word faithful and very good.
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One can only hope it's better than the series "based" (and I use that term loosely) on Terry Goodkind's books - Legend of the Seeker. Talk about completely ripping out the essence of a series... "sell-out" is bandied around all too often, but considering Goodkind's involvement in the show, I don't think there can be a better label for him.
I've not read the books or seen the show but it's done by Disney who are a good deal more meddling than HBO. Furthermore Wikipedia links to this quote that implies Terry Goodkind didn't really have much say:

http://www.terrygoodkind.com/forums/...d.php?p=620463
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"I want you all to understand that ABC studios chose not to consult me on actors, scripts, or any other aspect of the show. I have had no input whatsoever on the TV series, so I am the wrong person to write to or complain about the show. If you wish to make comments, positive or negative, please direct them to Disney/ABC. For my part, I trust in Sam Raimi and Rob Tapert to at some point be able to exert their immense creative talent and do a great job at bringing to life the characters we all love.
Terry"
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Interesting, considering he was supposed to be heavily involved (as the quote earlier in that same link states). Wonder what went wrong?

HBO is definitely the right place for ASoIaF though, considering the content. If only Goodkind's stuff had been put onto HBO as well...
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HBO start shooting the pilot for A Game Of Thrones in October:

http://grrm.livejournal.com/84893.html

Hooray!
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