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Old 02-05-2010, 09:33   #61
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So, jacket taken by Angels. Then jacket back on. Have watched this a few times. It may even suggest more than one possible revisit. When he first reaches for Amy the sleeves of jacket AND shirt are missing on his arms as he reaches to comfort her - now, this is either the Dr having his 80's Crockett moment (Admit it, you did it too, if you were around then!) or, two stops because then the pull back reveals the jacket on.
Nice to have to think about something for a change.
Also liked the fact that one of the production team also liked TGITF - it's my favourite episode so far.
But must admit, really loving Smith and Gillan. The fun is back without the gurning and no more soppy mooning after unrequited love! Moffat's comments on that alone were worth being glad for.
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don't think anyone has mentioned it but the Angels actually moving was very well done and quite creepy. I thought it might look terrible
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:43   #63
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don't think anyone has mentioned it but the Angels actually moving was very well done and quite creepy. I thought it might look terrible
My son didn't realise they were people in rubber masks! Thought they were CGI. Very well done indeed.
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Old 02-05-2010, 09:48   #64
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Or just a sneaky one? Who everyone else believes in?
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Old 02-05-2010, 10:03   #66
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Yes, this is a first hand experience for her. So what may have happened in her previous years could be the future for the doctor since he can appear in any time but, from what I understand, she is not a time-traveller and thus you see her out of sequence.
No, she's from the 51st century, like Captain Jack, who definitely was a time-traveller, so all bets are off there I'm afraid!
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I think the crack in time is a stroke of genius. Moffat can erase any crapness he didn't like from the last 5 years of the show.
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I can watch this episode on iPlayer, but not download it. Part 1 was available, but not this one. A subtle way for people to buy the DVD set.
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I think the crack in time is a stroke of genius. Moffat can erase any crapness he didn't like from the last 5 years of the show.
Could well be the case, but this bit of dialogue hints very obliquely that Davies and Moffat could have discussed all this a very long while ago...

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Don't think I've felt this eager and excited to tune into Dr Who since I was 10. This series is just going from strength to strength (I even enjoyed the Dalek episode for its commando comics OTT style).

I like how the Doctor isn't quite as perfect and all knowing here. His flaws and emotional outbursts feel much more real and impactful as a result. Some wonderful little character moments throughout this episode. Great stuff.
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Cant really add much, but will anyway.
Loved it and really like Smith as the Doctor.

On the subject of who River killed, and this is just speculation:
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No, she's from the 51st century, like Captain Jack, who definitely was a time-traveller, so all bets are off there I'm afraid!
Err, let's not forget her explicit statement that she was a time traveller when she offered to sacrifice herself instead of The Doctor, followed by him explaining how the Angels will be enough as a group to equal him.


Why is anyone surprised about the comic timing? This is the man who wrote Coupling and Joking Apart, which have had some amazing comedy set ups in them. I'm not a massive fan of Coupling but when it's good it's bloody amazing. The Girl With Two Breasts particularly.
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Why is anyone surprised about the comic timing? This is the man who wrote Coupling and Joking Apart, which have had some amazing comedy set ups in them.
I forgot he wrote Joking Apart which really sticks in my memory as being a forgotten comedy gem.
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I can watch this episode on iPlayer, but not download it. Part 1 was available, but not this one. A subtle way for people to buy the DVD set.
That's reasonable isn't it? iPlayer isn't meant to be a way for you to get copies of TV programmes to keep for free.
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as already been said many many times. Excellent. The Moff delivers once again
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That's reasonable isn't it? iPlayer isn't meant to be a way for you to get copies of TV programmes to keep for free.
errr you can download the iplayer app and download programmes to watch for 7 days. Nice branding of people being pirates without thinking mate
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Nice branding of people being pirates without thinking mate
Whether he was thinking or not, he was certainly accurate. The comment he was replying to was suggesting that the iPlayer download be in some way a substitute to buying the DVD. A 7 day legal download is hardly going to impact on DVD sales.
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That's reasonable isn't it? iPlayer isn't meant to be a way for you to get copies of TV programmes to keep for free.
Not wanting to keep the programmes for free - the programmes die after 7 days anyway, as they're DRM'ed. My broadband isn't good enough to watch iPlayer online - it stops and starts every 30 seconds or so. The only way for me to watch this is to download it and watch via the .wmv file. Now I'll miss this episode until the boxset comes out. And no, I can't change broadband supplier. I was simply moaning that due to technical difficulties, I won't be able to watch this. Simply stating something into the discussion.
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Now I'll miss this episode until the boxset comes out.
Can't you watch the repeat on BBC 3 ?
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Not wanting to keep the programmes for free - the programmes die after 7 days anyway, as they're DRM'ed. My broadband isn't good enough to watch iPlayer online - it stops and starts every 30 seconds or so. The only way for me to watch this is to download it and watch via the .wmv file. Now I'll miss this episode until the boxset comes out. And no, I can't change broadband supplier. I was simply moaning that due to technical difficulties, I won't be able to watch this. Simply stating something into the discussion.
It might be just an oversight that will be corrected on Tuesday when the right people return to work.
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