DOCTOR WHO Series 5 (1) Production & pre-aired thread *SPOILERS*

[Guest 3637]

Part 2 and 3 of the sock puppets spoofing the end of time. Suitably silly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKmGy...eature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOJdU...eature=channel

[new]

Currently filming the last two episodes of the series (still have 2 more Ep7 & 10 I think after these).

Set reports have spotted the following:
Doctor in top hat and tails at a wedding.
River Song.
Doctor giving her a book and something that looks like a Sonic.
they are filming on location/around the same village (where the Doctor crashes and meets Amy) as episode 1

Now it was hinted at that River Song could be the Doctors wife, but the wedding could also be Amy's as there have been a lot of rumors that she gets married this series.

Anyway if the Doctor is in "Hat and Tails" and give River Song the sonic and dairy, then this will tie in to when she tells 10 the last time she saw the Doctor, when he turned up in a "new suit".

[new]

Apparently there is a night shoot at Stonehenge early (some reports say Tuesday) next week.

[mnementh]

Return of the Ogri ?

[Harsin]

Even if Moffat's series turns out to be terible we should still be grateful that his intention to use the Daleks scuppered RTD's plans to have both the Daleks and the Time Lord's teaming up in The End of Time.

[Guest 3637]

Originally Posted by Harsin

Even if Moffat's series turns out to be terible we should still be grateful that his intention to use the Daleks scuppered RTD's plans to have both the Daleks and the Time Lord's teaming up in The End of Time.

I thought that was just a rumor. Is it confirmed anywhere? it sounds waay too silly to be false though.

[new]

Originally Posted by Neil Smalley

I thought that was just a rumor. Is it confirmed anywhere? it sounds waay too silly to be false though.

RTD mentions it himself in the excellent book:

Doctor Who: The Writer's Tale: The Final Chapter; Ł10.18 @ Amazon UK

Doctor Who: The Writer's Tale: The Final Chapter (Paperback)
by Russell T. Davies & Benjamin Cook
Paperback: 704 pages
Publisher: BBC Books (14 Jan 2010)
Language English
ISBN-10: 184607861X
ISBN-13: 978-1846078613
Product Dimensions: 23 x 15.4 x 5 cm

Product Description
For this new edition of The Writer’s Tale, Russell T Davies and Benjamin Cook expand their in-depth discussion of the creative life of Doctor Who to cover Russell’s final year as Head Writer and Executive Producer of the show, as well as his work behind the increasingly successful Torchwood and The Sarah Jane Adventures spin-offs. Candid and witty insights abound throughout two years’ worth of correspondence, covering David Tennant’s last episodes as the Doctor and the legacy that Russell and David leave behind as a new era of Doctor Who begins.

With over 300 pages of new material, and taking in events from the entire five years since the show’s return in 2005, The Writer’s Tale: The Final Chapter is the most comprehensive – and personal – account of Doctor Who ever published.
About the Author
Russell T Davies is one of the UK's foremost writers of television drama, creating groundbreaking shows such as Queer As Folk, Bob & Rose, and The Second Coming. He has been Head Writer and Executive Producer of Doctor Who since it returned to the BBC in 2005 and has written many of the new series' most memorable episodes. He was awarded an OBE in 2008 for services to drama. He divides his time between Cardiff and Manchester. Benjamin Cook is a journalist and regular contributor to Radio Times and Doctor Who Magazine. He has also been published in TV Zone, Cult Times and The Stage and is the author of Doctor Who: The New Audio Adventures - The Inside Story. He lives in London.

Really is a great book and well worth a read and RTD gives a warts an all account on his writing for Who and Torchwood.

[thescrounger]

Sounds great...

[hookbeak]

Originally Posted by thescrounger

Sounds great...

It is, and really shows up all the worthless critics of his writing who never even consider the reasons why he makes the choices he does.

[thescrounger]

I knew you'd show up after I posted that, like a bad penny.

[hookbeak]

Originally Posted by thescrounger

I knew you'd show up after I posted that, like a bad penny.

Say something useful or not at all. Mind, that'd leave pretty much "not at all" for you i guess...

By "worthless critics" i mean those who criticise it blindly without taking any effort to understand the audience they are aiming for, budget, time and a million other factors that go into making a successful show like Doctor Who.

The book goes into all of this and is really very enlightening about the whole writing process and gives a good insight into the good and bad decisions he's made over the years.

[thescrounger]

People are allowed to have opinions that differ to your own. That does not make them 'worthless critics' as you put it.

Also, your stalking of my posts in Doctor Who threads is getting boring now. You're no challenge.

[hookbeak]

Originally Posted by thescrounger

People are allowed to have opinions that differ to your own. That does not make them 'worthless critics' as you put it.

Also, your stalking of my posts in Doctor Who threads is getting boring now. You're no challenge.

Do get over yourself. I explained what made criticism worthless, if you don't understand what i was getting it i can't say i actually care...

[new]

Originally Posted by thescrounger

People are allowed to have opinions that differ to your own. That does not make them 'worthless critics' as you put it.

Oh the irony
I wonder how many times you will now have that quote thrown back at you

Anyway back to the book. I would not say I like everything he has come up with for Who, but he really does open up in this book to explain why he did that, what he really wanted to do but could not, etc.

I would also recommend the book to non Who (& RTD) fans as it is by far the most frank, open, and informative book about writing/running a TV series that I have ever read, and believe me being a for most cult TV/Films I have read a lot

[thescrounger]

Originally Posted by hookbeak

Do get over yourself. I explained what made criticism worthless, if you don't understand what i was getting it i can't say i actually care...

You shot youself in the foot (not the head sadly) with your worthless critics remark.

Originally Posted by new

I wonder how many times you will now have that quote thrown back at you

None at all. This is a forum where people post their opinions.

[hookbeak]

In my book, anyone who makes an opinion based out of ignorance renders that opinion worthless.

Is that hard to understand ?

[thescrounger]

Sorry, but the ins and outs of production can only excuse things so far. At the end of the day it must be judged by what's on screen.

[scoobyood]

Originally Posted by hookbeak

In my book, anyone who makes an opinion based out of ignorance renders that opinion worthless.

Is that hard to understand ?

Doesn't having watched countless thousands of films, read countless thousands of books and watched tens of thousands of hours of TV and entertainment mean that; many, many people have a very good idea of what makes good drama. Not to mention they have a solid clue as to how narratives are meant to flow and how a story's "internal logic" should function.
So really everyone can be a critic, they don't need to read the production book or listen to excuses from DVD's commentaries to draw their own, perfectly reasonable conclusions... conclusions such as 'RTD has made a dogs breakfast out of many of the episodes he has written'.

[cliff homewood]

Im going to the sfx weekender next weekend starring tom baker and liz sladen, anyone else on here going?

[new]

Originally Posted by new

Apparently there is a night shoot at Stonehenge early (some reports say Tuesday) next week.

Matt(Doctor), Karen (Amy) and Alex (River Song) were all spotted there last night.
Shooting was to far away for any accurate set reports over than it is the final 2 part story they are filming, and that they may be there for another 2 - 3 nights/days.

They have also been filming stuff around Amy's house for these episodes this time the Doctor, River Song, and YOUNG Amy were involved with no sign of Karen.