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Old 10-01-2020, 22:16   #1
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1917 - Sam Mendes' "one long shot" WW1 movie.

Just caught this in 4DX and... Whoa.
If you're only going to try that out once, do it with this film.

The film itself is fantastic; in terms of the story and performances, as well as the "one long shot" gimmick - Which Mendes pulls off near perfectly.

Definitely one for the "Classic War Films" folder, and I'm pretty sure it'll take home an Oscar or two come awards season
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Old 11-01-2020, 07:54   #2
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The whole thing - the theme, plot and trailers looked good. I definitely want to see it but being so busy with moving have not found time to go to the cinema. Will see if it is still showing next week....or wait fr the 4K BD.
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Old 11-01-2020, 17:52   #3
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Remarkable film. Loved it. So tense. Amazing cinematography and soundtrack. Well done Sam Mendes.
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Old 12-01-2020, 07:14   #4
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So looking forward to this, after my recent disappointments over Tarantino and Scorcese's latest.
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Very good but let down, for me, by a few major plot holes and a few things you can see coming a mile off.

The "one shot" gimmick is very well done with just a couple of instances where it was obvious where the cut was
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So looking forward to this, after my recent disappointments over Tarantino and Scorcese's latest.
Agreed on that. Even took a trip to cinema for the Irishman.

My 1917 mini review...

1917: Sam Mendes’ – World war 1 suicide mission to deliver orders that could save many lives at the front line

Technical tour-de-force with Deakin’s one-long-take cinematography. Brilliant Steadicam/gimbal/crane as we discover things at the same time as the leads.

Shoe-in on the Oscar.

Quiet moments good too. A fabulous section halfway through as night closes in. The lighting in that section is terrific.

I occasionally got dragged out into “is this a bit like Call of Duty?” But moments were strong and varied with enough emotional impact, and a suitable climax.

Worth the trip to the flix.



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It did look lovely and sound amazing and a couple of the sounds / scenes did make me jump but ultimately I was disappointed
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I'm gonna put this in spoiler tags coz I know how over-sensitive people here are about spoilers, but one point I wanted to make about how this film is being talked about:



For me this was very much a tale of two halves: First half was great, second half not so great. There's a very specific point (which is related to my comments in the spoiler tag) where the film kinda deflates and never quite gets back on track, and the final 20mins or so just get incredibly manipulative and overcooked imo. The cinematography is ******* amazing though and if Deakins doesn’t get a 2nd gong, it could very well be his biggest robbery to date (which is actually saying something when it comes to Deakins). Much of the cinematography immediately recalls his work on O Brother Where Art Thou? but the "one take" set up and all natural lighting just makes it all seem more impressive.

Oh and the film has some very wishy-washy internal logic, which dunkle's questioning above, and there really isn't any intelligent answer to his questions. So yeah, you'll enjoy it more if you don't try to make sense of it and take it on face value.

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I'm gonna put this in spoiler tags coz I know how over-sensitive people here are about spoilers, but one point I wanted to make about how this film is being talked about:



For me this was very much a tale of two halves: First half was great, second half not so great. There's a very specific point (which is related to my comments in the spoiler tag) where the film kinda deflates and never quite gets back on track, and the final 20mins or so just get incredibly manipulative and overcooked imo. The cinematography is ******* amazing though and if Deakins does get a 2nd gong, it could very well be his biggest robbery to date (which is actually saying something when it comes to Deakins). Much of the cinematography immediately recalls his work on O Brother Where Art Thou? but the "one take" set up and all natural lighting just makes it all seem more impressive.

Oh and the film has some very wishy-washy internal logic, which dunkle's questioning above, and there really isn't any intelligent answer to his questions. So yeah, you'll enjoy it more if you don't try to make sense of it and take it on face value.


As said technically very impressive and beautiful to look at.
I’m guess will mop up in loads of technical area oscars and likely best director, but certainly no where near to a best film and one I don’t think I’d ever be in a rush to see again due to my personal disappointment as such from that point.

Good but far from great

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Yeah there's a fundamental problem with adopting the "playing out in real time" approach to this story: You only have a couple of hours, so a mission where they have to deliver X message at Y to save thousands of lives kinda needs to cheat and slather on the conrivances to make it seem like a very difficult task.



Like I say: Doesn't make much sense if you think about it. It's not a huge deal when it comes to enjoying the film, but I do think Krysty Wilson-Cairns's nomination for Best Original Screenplay is a complete insult - especially when you consider that Pain and Glory didn't get a nomination in this department.

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Watched this tonight. Loved the whole thing from start to finish. Very poignant.
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After seeing 1917 at the cinema and again last week on 4K BD, it is one hell of a filmmaking effort. Superbly and extremely realistically shot from start to finish, it captures the horrors of trench warfare like nothing before it. George MacKay gives a brilliantly understated performance in the lead as the physically and mentally exhausted soldier, yet determined to carry out his vital mission.

All of a sudden, Saving Private Ryan seems contrived and self-indulgent by comparison. Yes, it also has some great action sequences too but the characterization and acting are too "American" for lack of a better term. Good film in its own right but no way in 1917's class. Not by a long chalk.
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Old 01-06-2020, 14:58   #13
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The whole one shot gimmick wore very thin for me after about 10 mins. It was actually starting to give me a headache.

The film was decent but the gimmick was just that.
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Old 01-06-2020, 15:08   #14
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Well, opinions differ. I like a different approach like that if well done. This was certainly well done.
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I think it's the most overrated thing since the last thing that was massively overrated (which I can't think of right now). Plenty good about it, to be sure - I wouldn't knock Mackay or the cinematography or production design - but it got to the point where it just felt like a walking simulator in uniform. I can accept the fact that a soldier floats down a river for ten minutes, but don't think there's any need to float along with him every second of the way; in fact I applied some 'editing' of my own by making a cuppa on second viewing - I was sure I must have missed something so thought I'd give it another go - and there he was when I returned, still bobbing along. I knew I hadn't missed anything; and before you say 'ah, but it was in real time so we had to watch him all the way' - it wasn't, or there would have been several hours added to the running time about halfway through while nothing at all happened.

I've started so I'll finish. I don't believe a general would haul in two grunts and personally entrust them with this super-crucial mission - he'd just order the nearest major to sort out a couple of expendables to take a message somewhere. (Was a reason given why he couldn't launch a Speckled Jim?) Of course, if the man with the pips had any sense, he'd send out several teams to maximise his chance of success - but WWI brass weren't known for their intelligence. I know, I've read a book about it. And I've just realised the cunning multiple teams plan wouldn't work; suppose the camera crew followed the wrong pair!

In fact I didn't like the script a great deal. Apart from the above, I think the scene with Cumberbatch just as unlikely. The scene with the French girl lurking in the cellar was just horribly contrived (quick - we'd better get a female in the cast!), as was the woodland singalong. Put me in the 'rather watch Private Ryan again' camp (or more likely Paths of Glory).

Not bad on the whole, but... (I'd better say 'in my opinion') it's really just the sort of thing that awards juries fall over themselves to be seen to nominate.

There. That's that off my chest. And in that enclosed space, the rat bomb would have blown their eardrums out.
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when you consider that Pain and Glory didn't get a nomination in this department.
Off on a tangent, but this one had passed me by completely. The trailer looks sublime so thank you.
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Pain and Glory and The Favourite were the top films of 2019 for me, great film.
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I think it's the most overrated thing since the last thing that was massively overrated (which I can't think of right now).
Dunkirk.
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Dunkirk was way better than this.
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Agreed.
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