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Old 10-12-2016, 12:58   #1
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War For The Planet Of The Apes

First trailer:



Director Matt Reeves returns, along with Andy Serkis in the mo-cap suit. Woody Harrelson leads the human cast

Rise was a solid reboot, Dawn was a big improvement, & this is looking very promising indeed.

Certainly looks 'big'.
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Old 10-12-2016, 13:11   #2
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I agree so far. I think the reboot series is better and more solid than the original series, which lost its way in the second film and after some improvement in the third installment, went way off for the next two.
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Hard to tell from the trailer but do I sense good men and apes v bad men?
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This reboot does not float my boat. At least the Charlton Heston version had a more plausible reason why the Apes took over after mankind annihilated itself, they merely inherited it. The Tim Burton had a more of a Multiverse approach.

I find it hard to believe even with a virus threatening man, that the powers that be would not nuke such a large threat.

And the idea that the humans are bad guys again, is getting a little stale, when are we going to get a proper war among the apes themselves?
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Wasn't it a combination of 'virus spreads across the globe killing pretty much all humans' and 'same virus makes apes super intelligent'. Dawn and now this one always seemed to be a post apocalyptic type scenario so doubt there's anyone left to really nuke anyone. And with all the apes spread out (but unified under Caesar?) they're not much of a target.

Loving the idea that the apes have taken in a human girl, she's sure to cause tension amoung the ranks.
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Old 10-12-2016, 17:52   #6
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Does it really matter how plausible the "origins" are - it's got talking monkeys!!!

I may have to have an all 5 originals / TV Series / Animated Series / Burton / Reboots marathon to work up to this

(of all of those the only one that I don't genuinely love is Battle..)
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I've seen the first two, in a world that seems pretty much empty but for a small band of apes in a Forest near San Francisco and a few humans. Why is there such need for conflict?

Surely if the humans bogged off somewhere else in the country, the odds of them ever crossing paths again would be very small.

I understand the original movie, humans all but destroyed, over thousands of years the apes breed and take over.

This is going to turn out to be a very tedious series to get to the Charlton Heston point, for a start they are 3000 miles away from where they need to be.
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Old 10-12-2016, 18:13   #8
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This is going to turn out to be a very tedious series to get to the Charlton Heston point, for a start they are 3000 miles away from where they need to be.
Exactly

At the end of the first one I still do not understand why the did not bomb them out of existence as soon as they left the bridge? The virus had not spread yet, and these apes had killed lots of people, and they just let them wander off into the forest.
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Exactly

At the end of the first one I still do not understand why the did not bomb them out of existence as soon as they left the bridge? The virus had not spread yet, and these apes had killed lots of people, and they just let them wander off into the forest.
Did they know how virulent the virus would turn out to be at that stage? Or if they did, perhaps bombing carried the risk of the virus mutating into something even worse.
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Either way, a few monkeys in a Forest would seem to be the least of their worries.
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Either way, a few monkeys in a Forest would seem to be the least of their worries.
Apes, not monkeys.
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Looks good, if the story’s decent enough.

Talking about the various movies, I was always curious about something since the James Franco movie: Is it intended to somehow tie these in to the Tim Burton version? – didn’t they have the news footage in 'Rise of the...', showing the spaceship carrying Mark Wahlberg from the Burton version? I assume it was some novelty tie in and once they realised this had legs they conveniently forgot about that effort?
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Talking about the various movies, I was always curious about something since the James Franco movie: Is it intended to somehow tie these in to the Tim Burton version? – didn’t they have the news footage in 'Rise of the...', showing the spaceship carrying Mark Wahlberg from the Burton version? I assume it was some novelty tie in and once they realised this had legs they conveniently forgot about that effort?
Nope, the news footage in Rise was about Charlton Heston's Icarus mission from the original 1968 Planet of the Apes movie. There's a newspaper headline later in the movie that says it's been lost in space.

Despite being quite successful financially, the Burton movie was so critically derided AFAIK it's no longer considered 'canon'.
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So are these a "reboot" of the franchise or a set of prequels to the original movie, is it building to the original movie or a future remake of that movie?
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Reboot with references

And as far as I recall, the humans weren't really aware there was a virus capable of killing people and even if they had killed the apes with bombs it wouldn't have changed the virus as it was already out after ceaser had bitten the neighbour who turned out to be a pilot, hence spreading the virus worldwide.
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Yes but what are we rebooting towards? A future POTA reboot seems incredibly odd and about 400 movies away based on the current plot length of movies. There wouldn't exactly be a big reveal.
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A couple more trailers have appeared for this.

Trailer 2:




Final trailer:



Shaping up to look quite epic.
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Yes but what are we rebooting towards? A future POTA reboot seems incredibly odd and about 400 movies away based on the current plot length of movies. There wouldn't exactly be a big reveal.
We don't need 400 movies though to get to the timeline of the original POTA, though. that was the whole point of that film.. .the ship went through something that propelled them almost 2000 years into the future.

Guess it depends whether this series is heading towards rebooting 'POTA' again, or just a number of films showing the apes war against humans... which we know, ultimately ends up with apes being the dominant species.
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Well it'd seem a bit odd to just rush forward to that movie now, since we're learning about how the planet became the planet of the apes, apparently one battle at a time fronted by a different film star each time.

Film looks quite good though, I'll give it that. Should be worth a watch
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Since Caesars intelligence is as a result of something different to the original films and the current films well beyond humans launching a plane let alone an advanced space ship it would seem unlikely that they would remake the original film. After all finding out there's a future where apes rule the world is not much of a reveal.
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