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Old 25-07-2004, 10:26   #1
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Advice please - Which Cpu about £100 ish? on which Mboard with which memory?

I know I'm asking a lot here but

Getting totaly lost here trying to choose what to get. There are just too many different CPU's Mboard and Ram to choose from right now.

I guess I'm looking around the £100 mark for a CPU

That means perhaps a 2.8 P4 (could squeeze up to a 3.0Ghz version)

Or a Athlon, or a Abit 64Bit (have seen for £100 also)

Then need Mboard to suit. Mboard seems to vary a LOT in price and reading reviews in Mags a £40 one often performs about 99% the speed of a £140 one!

Ram to suit the above also... (800Mhz?) Althon suitable ram? whatever ?

Anyone care to suggest the above 3 items to go with ?

Most bang for the Buck I guess you could say

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Old 25-07-2004, 10:54   #2
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If you're going for Intel then get a Pentium 4 2.8 or 3.0 "Northwood" 800MHz FSB Processor rather than a "Prescott".

PC3200 (DDR400) is the RAM you need from here

I've got an Asus P4P800-VM which is about £60 to £65.
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Old 25-07-2004, 15:05   #3
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Thanks for the advice Dan.

Things are oh so complicate these days, it used to be easy, but now we have just so much to choose from.

The CPU's you suggest I have been looking at, so say I went with one of these. We'll say a 2.8 for argument.

Can I get a motherboard that will take say Prescotts as their speeds bump up (and hopefully temp comes down), so perhaps in a year or two I can plug in a cheap 4Ghz Prescott. Or are we going to be throwing away these sockets as well?

I did wonder about one of the lower AMD64 chips (coming out at £100 ish) but not sure how far a motherboard that would accept that would be any god in the future.

Gonna go have a look at those bits you suggest....

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Can I get a motherboard that will take say Prescotts as their speeds bump up (and hopefully temp comes down), so perhaps in a year or two I can plug in a cheap 4Ghz Prescott. Or are we going to be throwing away these sockets as well?
Yeah that's the problem, socket 478 is being phased out so I doubt you're gonna get a CPU higher than a 3.4GHz in it. But by then PCI-Express will be more widespread and you'd want to upgrade you're motherboard anyway.

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Old 25-07-2004, 16:28   #5
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Yeah that's the problem, socket 478 is being phased out so I doubt you're gonna get a CPU higher than a 3.4GHz in it. But by then PCI-Express will be more widespread and you'd want to upgrade you're motherboard anyway.
Indeed, nothing ever lasts, that's why I'm not really going to spend big bucks these days (like used to) as even the cheap stuff seems to perform 90+% of the top stuff.

The cheapest AMD64 is tempting as the start of something new.
That's £100. But not sure about Mboards and memory for one of those.


Had a look at your Mboard, but a bit put off by only 3 PCI.
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Why put off by only 3 pci slots? I find it hard to find a use for them nowadays. Only a new soundcard, everything else is on board.
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Old 25-07-2004, 20:12   #7
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Why put off by only 3 pci slots? I find it hard to find a use for them nowadays. Only a new soundcard, everything else is on board.
Yeah, True I guess.

I wonder if 3 will become 2 with a modern graphics card taking up extra space also ???

I have a network card (but that's built it now)
Also USB2 card (but that's built in now)

Sound Card = one PCI

Digi TV card = one PCI

I think that's it... So I could get away with it.

Guess it just "feels" limiting, but in reality probably ok nowadays.

Looking at those AS Rock P4 Mboard's for only about £25!! new.
Seems daft how well they perform against things 4x their price.
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Basically what Dan said Although you can get some GeIL ram which is excellent value for money. 2x256 matched pari for dual channel will set you back about £65 at overclockers

Also another motherboard to consider is the Abit IC7 which has a later chipset than the P4P800 series and is said to be a little more stable for overclocking for about £75. Basically with mobos you can get one that runs 99% of the speed of the more expensive models for around that price, but you miss out on some of the extra features that are rarely used anyway

The prescot P4s actually run hotter than the northwoods because of the higher L2 cache, which is why a lot of people avoid them. They are a little faster at stock speeds, but the northwoods overclock better due to their lower temperature

So my recommendations, P4 3.0ghz (sounds much better as it starts with a 3 ), Abit IC7 mobo and 2x 256mb geIL value ram
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