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Very, very good & glade to see that RTD is getting praise from some of you at long last. If we all think it’s a long wait to next week after that we are going to have to wait to Xmas to see what happens next.
As for the owner of that voice, well I’m thinking 4 things:
1. Davros
2. Adam
3. Turns out that Adam IS Davros. This would follow on with the twist that the Doctor made the Earth be in the mess it is in this episode. The fact that in his time meddling he actually helped create the maker of the most feared thing in the whole Galaxy.
4. The battle scared Dalek did not self destruction at the end of "Dalek", but teleported its self somewhere & started to rebuild its race as some sort of human/Dalek hybrid. Perhaps this is the reason Rose has not yet been exterminated as she is now part of there DNA?
The fact the "Dalek" episode was directly before “The Long Game” one & we are now back to where one that was set, makes me think the “Dalek” episode has also got to have a significant link to what is going on some how.
Have to also say that the new Doctor has got a tough act to follow. Thought Eccleston was OK at first but he really has been an important part in this show’s revival.
EDIT - As a heads up there is a 45min Doctor Who Confidential on BBC1 at 6.15pm (before the last episode) next Saturday as well as the usual 25min one on BBC 3 after the show.
Not sure if the later one will be an edited down version of the longer one or not.
I thought it was a brilliant episode.
I loved all the little Dalek reveals,even though I had seen last weeks trailer.
The build towards the end in the last few minutes was worth waiting for a week also.
It's certainly been a succesful revamp,let's hope we'll all warm to Casanova in the same way as the current Doc...
As for the owner of that voice, well I’m thinking 4 things:
1. Davros
2. Adam
3. Turns out that Adam IS Davros. This would follow on with the twist that the Doctor made the Earth be in the mess it is in this episode. The fact that in his time meddling he actually helped create the maker of the most feared thing in the whole Galaxy.
4. The battle scared Dalek did not self destruction at the end of "Dalek", but teleported its self somewhere & started to rebuild its race as some sort of human/Dalek hybrid. Perhaps this is the reason Rose has not yet been exterminated as she is now part of there DNA?
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Are you forgetting the Dalek Emperor? That's who my moneys on.
That was fantastic! All those doubting Russell T Davies better let me know how that humble pie tastes, 'cos 'Bad Wolf' rocks and POTW looks even better. Utterly compelling, chock-full of great lines ('Do i look like an out of bounds kind of guy?' 'No-one votes for sweet!'), great direction, atmospheric, pacy, with some great twists ('I created this world', Rose disintegrated before our eyes). Also, despite the small-scale 'Boom Town' giving the impression that the budget had run out, the special effects were the best yet. The final shot, the pull-back from Rose seeing thousands of Daleks in the giant hold of the ship, honestly looked like the tour of the cloning factory in Attack of the Clones. Director Joe Ahearne has worked miracles on his episodes, and he will be missed next series. The only blot on the copybook was the blatanly unsubtle reprise of all the 'Bad Wolf' moments from earlier in the series laid over the title sequence, for all those at the back of the class that haven't been paying attention. Unnecessary.
ROSE 7/10
THE END OF THE WORLD 8/10
THE UNQUIET DEAD 9/10
ALIENS OF LONDON 7/10
WORLD WAR THREE 7/10
DALEK 8/10
THE LONG GAME 6/10
FATHER'S DAY 9/10
THE EMPTY CHILD 8/10
THE DOCTOR DANCES 8/10
BOOM TOWN 7/10
BAD WOLF 9/10
I watched most of it and agree with the good things people have said so won't go into them again. Suprised no ones had a moan about the screwdriver's over-use, at least in the parts i saw. Anyone know what happens to Jack? Haven't heard mention of him in next series so guess he is killed/parts ways with Rose at the end?
This was just bloody good television and the best Dr Who for years. RTD's best script and a Doctor I will sorely miss in Eccleston. Can't believe it will be all over next week.
I also enjoyed it, good edge of the seat directing, could tell the direction was good form th efirst scene of the doctor trapped in the room. Having however many hundred years in the future be based on our current teevee is not very intelligent, lazy cheesy writing. However it did it well, and the daleks were well intense again when they reappeared. Lets just hope the cybermen are done as well, I for one am hoping for singsong voices.
The only blot on the copybook was the blatanly unsubtle reprise of all the 'Bad Wolf' moments from earlier in the series laid over the title sequence, for all those at the back of the class that haven't been paying attention. Unnecessary.
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You mean, normal viewers and not Dr Who fans? I doubt the average viewer will remember the conversation Rose had with Gwyneth 10 weeks ago, so it was a welcome reprise.
Excellent from start to finish, apart from the music drowning out the dialogue in a couple of places, firstly just after Rose was zapped, but that was intentional I think, to emphasize that the Doc was so stunned by Rose's apparent death, the goings on around him did not matter, and secondly in the dialogue between the Doc and the Daleks - music way too loud.
Anyway, to me it is seems fairly obvious who said 'they survived though me' ... potential massive spoilers if its correct ...
The lone dalek in episode six said pretty puch the same thing after it had just recharged itself, saying "The daleks survive in me" and the writer of the 'Dalek' episode has said his original intention was for the dalek to die at the end, which implies it may not have done after all. Looks like it could have teleported. As for the games show losers being teleported, old-series fans may recall that in Revelation of the Daleks, Davros was mutating humanoids into his new breed of imperial daleks, as the same thing may be going on here, with the 'lone dalek' busy creating a new army, and promoting itself to emperor in the process. Bear in mind it is now probably able to think illogically like a human, courtesy of Rose's DNA it absorbed - a quality which the daleks have sought to use Davros for in the Dalek/Movellan war in 'Destiny of the Daleks' and 'Ressurection of the Daleks'. Of course, non-old series fans need not be aware of any 'old Who' to appreciate this, and old fans will get the reference too.
... although ... [back-covering disclaimer] I could have got all of that completely wrong.[/back-covering disclaimer]
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Reason: because of his butter-fingers typing.
That was fantastic! All those doubting Russell T Davies better let me know how that humble pie tastes,
Why would anyone need to eat humble pie? All his episodes prior to this were average compared to the other writers. This one blew them all away. Rather than eating humble pie, I'm just glad he finally learnt how to write an exceptional episode and hope he did the same for next week. Its a shame he couldn't have done it earlier - but it gives me hope for next season, that he's learned his lessons and will be producing the best season of Who ever.
I didn't "doubt" him, I just didn't build up huge expectations in case it matched his earlier output.
And I being a pedantic nitpicker still have question like if it was a transporter beam what was the big pile of dust loeft behind when it was used? Also surprised they didn't leave the rose is not dead reveal till next week, perhaps they thought it'd be too much for the kids?
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