Doctor Who - The Ninth TV Doctor; Season 1 - Ep 12: Badwolf, 11th June *Spoilers*

[Guest 1092]

Hmm...

Dont know if it's been mentioned but this has shown up on IMDB as part of the cast list for the last episode:-

Laura Frazer .... Tardis Voice

Since when did the Tardis speak???

[Guest 11785]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Hmm...

Dont know if it's been mentioned but this has shown up on IMDB as part of the cast list for the last episode:-

Laura Frazer .... Tardis Voice

Since when did the Tardis speak???

Well they've made a lot of the fact that the Tardis has got a soul in this series...

[John Hodson]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Hmm...

Dont know if it's been mentioned but this has shown up on IMDB as part of the cast list for the last episode:-

Laura Frazer .... Tardis Voice

Since when did the Tardis speak???

Maybe she says: 'Self destruct will initiate in 60 seconds, 59, 58, 57...'

[thescrounger]

Big episode 13 spoiler:

The Radio Times cast list for saturdays episode includes David Tennant.

[Guest 10143]

Just a thought!

I think The Doctor may well die by being trapped on the station when it is destroyed, this would be what the Moxx of Balhoon would call "the classic bad wolf scenario."

Quite what this would mean with regard to regeneration is beyond me. Does the doctor actually "Die" if he's blown to bits?

Apologies if this idea has already been suggested, I haven't read all 10 pages

James
PS. The Scroungers spoiler directly above is most interesting.

[Aardvark]

Originally Posted by John Hodson

Maybe she says: 'Self destruct will initiate in 60 seconds, 59, 58, 57...'

On the other hand maybe she says: 'Careful where you stick that bicycle pump...'

[RonnyJ]

A couple of thoughts on another possible theory...

The doctor feels that it's his fault for leaving the human race to decline (and if Adam is also somehow involved, that'd also increase any feelings of guilt on his part). I'm thinking he might end up sacrificing himself to try to correct the mistakes he made (and the hologram video we saw in the trailer might back up this theory).

[Refrenz]

Originally Posted by Aardvark

On the other hand maybe she says: 'Careful where you stick that bicycle pump...'

I'm going with "The bins need doing, and while you're at it the swimming pool needs draining. Oh, and some Sontarans have wandered on board again so you can kick them out n'all. (sigh)".

[tizza]

We have really enjoyed this series, the cast are great and the stories, even the bad ones are a breath of fresh air to tv, amongst turds like eastenders, big brother etc etc. It was good to see BB lampooned in this episode, says a lot for the general viewing public!

[cliff homewood]

on the idiocy (from the SF perspective of postulating a believable future) of having far future reality tv parodies I think one of the reviewers on the first page of outpost gallifrey reviews hit it head on.

But on the good news, Michael Grade 'apologising' for cancelling dr who, i take it the 26 year run wasn'ta clue enoguh the series had legs.

[Guest 2241]

I've tried to keep quiet throughout the series but I suppose now is the time to unleash.

This episode was probably the best in the current series (along with fathers day) but that only means that they're the best of a bad bunch. I truly wish I could see what some people see. Some people quote lines that are at best average like they're amazing. From episode one the directing, acting and most importantly writing have been very BBC1. The fact that not even people don't see it and in fact think it's better than previous incarnations of Dr Who make me dispare.

The whole episode was a bit pointless though. Why show us the whole satellite thing? It wasn't entertaining and it didn't add anything to the darlek story. What was the point of transporting humans to the station then to the Darlek ship instead of going straight there? They could have given the whole show a Cube vibe but it was more CBBC as usual

I did like the "bear with me" gag and the Ann-droid. I did wonder if that was a Davros reference too. As soon as I heard the last line I though Davros. It has to be really otherwise it's going to be a big disappointment

[thescrounger]

Originally Posted by camaj

The whole episode was a bit pointless though. Why show us the whole satellite thing? It wasn't entertaining and it didn't add anything to the darlek story. What was the point of transporting humans to the station then to the Darlek ship instead of going straight there? They could have given the whole show a Cube vibe but it was more CBBC as usual

You were watching it I take it?

The Game Station used to be satellite 5 one hundred years ago, when the Doctor was there and liberated the Earth from the Jagrafess. Only now he's realised he should have stuck around a bit longer, because he 'made this world'. The Daleks were using the power of the satellite to hide their fleet for a number of decades while they shaped the earth into vunerable mush to make their invasion a lot easier (they failed before remember). All of this was important to the "Dalek story".

[BlackJedi]

Originally Posted by camaj

Darlek

Putting an "r" in Dalek is tantamount to saying "my opinions are worthless".

[Boink!]

Originally Posted by cliff homewood

on the idiocy (from the SF perspective of postulating a believable future) of having far future reality tv parodies I think one of the reviewers on the first page of outpost gallifrey reviews hit it head on.

Not wishing to sign up for that hyperactive bunch of virgin nerds forum, what did they say?

[Boink!]

Originally Posted by BlackJedi

Putting an "r" in Dalek is tantamount to saying "my opinions are worthless".

or you're from the west country.

[Guest 11785]

Originally Posted by BlackJedi

Putting an "r" in Dalek is tantamount to saying "my opinions are worthless".

[thescrounger]

Originally Posted by Boink!

Not wishing to sign up for that hyperactive bunch of virgin nerds forum, what did they say?

You don't have to sign up for the forums to view the main site. How many times have I said one should not be confused with the other? Gallifreyone is a news resource. Like any other site it has a forum, like the DVD Times has this one.

It sounded as though Russell T Davies had gone absolutely barmy. Big Brother. What Not to Wear. The Weakest Link. And Daleks? And yet it has resulted in one of the best episodes of the year, a cutting satire that reminds you of the extremes reality TV can be taken to and a gripping build up to the final, climatic episode. I was astonished at how excited I got during this episode, at the beginning I was groaning, halfway through I was roaring and at the end I was positively glowing. If anybody was still unconvinced that RTD is the man to bring Doctor Who back on the screen than surely this episode has put that to rest.

I think a lot of this episodes success is down to Joe Ahearne’s outstanding direction. To be fair to the man, he has not delivered a single bad shot and has already wowed us with his dramatic flair (Father's Day) and his visual eye (capturing the locations of Cardiff beautifully in Boom Town). This had to be Ahearne’s trickiest episode yet and the one that could so easily fall flat on his face if he didn’t get the atmosphere perfect. And he has done it in the only way possible, playing the reality TV gone mad deadly straight so that the viewers are on the edge of their seats willing the participants to survive. It could have been so easy to camp it all up and poke fun but instead RTD and Ahearne take the very simple premise of you lose you die to the extreme and the result is nail bitingly tense. I loved it.

[Guest 11785]

Originally Posted by thescrounger

It sounded as though Russell T Davies had gone absolutely barmy. Big Brother. What Not to Wear. The Weakest Link. And Daleks? And yet it has resulted in one of the best episodes of the year, a cutting satire that reminds you of the extremes reality TV can be taken

To me it just seemed like a rather silly way to bring in current cultural references.

It genuinely makes me sad. Really feel like I've missed something by not getting it

[RonnyJ]

After rewatching it, it seems a bit odd to me how at the start Lynda says to the Doctor how 'brilliant' it is that he's been chosen for Big Brother. Since she knows that all but one contestant will 'die', his presence there is potentially harmful to both him and her and so her enthusiasm there seems a bit weird.

It's most likely a script decision done for the 'Big Brother' atmosphere at the start, but it definitely is odd when you notice it on a second viewing.

[Vulcan101]

I think the point is that if Adam is reponsible for the whole thing it makes a lot of sense. In the Long Game the Dr said their technology was 100 years behind what it should have been, Adam had a full download of their current technology. He would also know all about shows like Weakest Link, Big Brother etc so that would explain why they used those shows on the Game station.

Is it just me but does anyone think the Lynda character is a bit suspicious - the first thing she did when she left the house was to dump her shoulder bag which probably had the only personal possessions she owned, particularly as she was looking to go off with the Dr. How many women would go anywhere without their handbag?

Personally I think we may find that Adam has either turned himself into a Davros like creature or Davros has returned and Adam is working for him as a Dalek agent. Whoever it was the Doctor clearly was surprised and shocked.

I'm looking forward to Saturday like a kid waiting for Christmas