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Old 14-01-2009, 10:37   #41
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Got to love the TV forum at the moment with the 24 threads from all our American posters
yeh, tis a little bit double standardy given the nature of this particular thread I would have said....
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Old 14-01-2009, 10:48   #42
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I'd agree about the double-standards on the TV thread. I was as guilty as anyone when it came to seeing 24 and Lost by less than legitimate standards, and also The Office actually.

For the office, I now just wait for the R1 DVD to get released, and buy that - with 24 we're only a week behind US broadcast anyway aren't we? It's not like you're waiting months and months for a legitimate UK broadcast anymore, I think the same is happening with Lost too.
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Old 14-01-2009, 11:04   #43
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Old 14-01-2009, 11:45   #44
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yeh, tis a little bit double standardy given the nature of this particular thread I would have said....
And there was me thinking the reason behind this 'double standard' was made particularly clear earlier in the thread: the studios are cracking down on the movie forum but they're not cracking down on the TV stuff (or the music stuff) so it's not a big deal, yet.
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Old 14-01-2009, 12:13   #45
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And there was me thinking the reason behind this 'double standard' was made particularly clear earlier in the thread: the studios are cracking down on the movie forum but they're not cracking down on the TV stuff (or the music stuff) so it's not a big deal, yet.
I don't think that the "studios" are "cracking down" on the handful of posters in the Movie Forums here.... I think it's more a case of Colin wanting everyone to tread lightly because the next legal bill that occurs will sink the site without trace. I assume everyone's been reading the threads on the site finances?

No matter the rights or wrongs, it will only take one law firm anxious to impress their masters to destroy all of Colins work here - and I don't think we ought to begrudge him the right to be careful about it.

Anyone who puts ******* themselves off on the Internet about their downloading habits above the entertainment value this site gives to the rest of us shouldn't be welcome here anyway!
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Old 14-01-2009, 12:18   #46
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And there was me thinking the reason behind this 'double standard' was made particularly clear earlier in the thread: the studios are cracking down on the movie forum but they're not cracking down on the TV stuff (or the music stuff) so it's not a big deal, yet.
it's still double standards though...
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Old 14-01-2009, 12:19   #47
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I don't think that the "studios" are "cracking down" on the handful of posters in the Movie Forums here.... I think it's more a case of Colin wanting everyone to tread lightly because the next legal bill that occurs will sink the site without trace. I assume everyone's been reading the threads on the site finances?

No matter the rights or wrongs, it will only take one law firm anxious to impress their masters to destroy all of Colins work here - and I don't think we ought to begrudge him the right to be careful about it.

Anyone who puts ******* themselves off on the Internet about their downloading habits above the entertainment value this site gives to the rest of us shouldn't be welcome here anyway!

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Old 14-01-2009, 12:24   #48
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Got to love the TV forum at the moment with the 24 threads from all our American posters
Also worth noting that some of the posters on these threads are Mods, so nice to see that anti-piracy thing is being taken seriously by the people who help run this site.
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Old 14-01-2009, 12:27   #49
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As has been previously posted, we can't police where people watch TV shows - we have to assume they're watching them legitimately and unless they post otherwise this is all we can do.

The situation is EXACTLY the same as this forum anyway - all we want is for members to only discuss viewings of films they've seen legitimately - if they haven't seen them legitimately then just don't hint at that in any way.

If people ARE going to make an issue out of the TV forum then the chances are we'll have to close it and that will be entirely down to the complaints on here. I haven't asked for much in this thread - just caution when posting and no mentioning of dodgy methods of watching - that's it. Is it really worth commenting on the wider situation and causing us the hassle of having to close down areas of the site?
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It isn't double standards anyway. It's always been the rule that you can't discuss TV shows until they have aired somewhere in the world.

There are perfectly legal ways to watch US television broadcasts from the UK, but there is not a legal way to do so with film, hence the difference.
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Old 14-01-2009, 13:21   #52
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Even then it's possible to legally see a film in the US before it airs in the UK.

As long as posters don't detail where they watched the film/show then I don't see how the forums can get in any trouble. Obviously discussing screeners for films/shows that have yet to air is wrong as that has to involve piracy.

I don't see this forums job as enforcing non-piracy. It simply needs to ensure that it doesn't get into legal trouble.
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Old 14-01-2009, 13:24   #53
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Even then it's possible to legally see a film in the US before it airs in the UK.
Of course. I was more referring to the fact that if you live in the UK and somehow post about how you have just seen the latest US blockbuster on it's opening weekend EVERY WEEK, then it would be obvious you are not jetting out every week to catch a movie

It is feasible, and legal, to watch US television every week from the UK

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Old 14-01-2009, 13:42   #54
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The only thing indicating a posters physical location is what they have entered in their profile. Do you really live in a place called Radio City?

I guess a studio could petition for server logs and IP details and prove that someone was in the UK when they made their post about seeing a film. But that seems rather far fetched.

I feel that the simple steps set out by Colin in the OP more than handle the situation. People just need to be sensible when posting.
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Old 14-01-2009, 18:38   #55
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If people ARE going to make an issue out of the TV forum then the chances are we'll have to close it and that will be entirely down to the complaints on here. I haven't asked for much in this thread - just caution when posting and no mentioning of dodgy methods of watching - that's it. Is it really worth commenting on the wider situation and causing us the hassle of having to close down areas of the site?
Think i'd leave if you closed down the tv forums.
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Old 14-01-2009, 19:46   #56
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It would take a big chunk out of the reason for visiting these forums for me too
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Never go on the TV forums myself - so feel free to bin them if it saves the site!
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