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Old 20-06-2010, 22:19   #81
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I only have the OS and a few essential on my 40gb SSD, so that's why I'm thinking of upgrading to something larger and (even!) faster.
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So I'm finally in the market for one of these again. Got around £250 to spend (bonus from work and thought I'd finally treat myself!)

What's the best deal around? It seems I can comfortably afford "last generation" 128GB, but I think I'd prefer to get a smaller but faster drive
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Old 17-07-2010, 08:05   #83
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On paper, the C300 is the fastest drive you can get atm but you're looking at £280 for a 128gb model from google shopping.
They do a new 64gb version which is insanely good value at £120.

Seems Aria have the 100gb vertex 2 for a very cheap £217. Everyone else seems to be selling it at £270 and up. I'd go for this deal at £217 if i was buying an SSD at this moment - especially if you don't have sata 3 support for the C300.

If you do want last gen then either the Intel x25-m 80gb for £180 or anything indilinx based (if you don't mind overclockers they have the 120gb ocz vertex for £210 - which was a good price until I saw that vertex 2!)

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Old 22-07-2010, 13:24   #84
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Just a heads up in case anyone sees it on any other bargain sites (like I did). Play are selling the OCZ Core 128gb for £60. Which is incredibly cheap. But... it's a JMicron based drive and hence terrible. Don't do it!

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Just started finding out about SSD's recently. Is there a good easy to understand guide on the benefits and requirements of them?

I know that they have no moving parts, generate virtually no heat, etc but what sort of connection do they require or extra controllers? I have a i7 core Windows 7 system so assume one of these would be ideal.

Do you get the extra performance boost if you get a relatively small one, say 32GB, and only have the OS on it with your apps on another drive, or do they need to be on the SSD? I'm assuming the latter.

Also, which seems to be the way to go in terms of SATA, SATA-II or PCI-e? Are there even any affordable PCI-e ones available at the minute?

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Just started finding out about SSD's recently. Is there a good easy to understand guide on the benefits and requirements of them?

I know that they have no moving parts, generate virtually no heat, etc but what sort of connection do they require or extra controllers? I have a i7 core Windows 7 system so assume one of these would be ideal.

Do you get the extra performance boost if you get a relatively small one, say 32GB, and only have the OS on it with your apps on another drive, or do they need to be on the SSD? I'm assuming the latter.

Also, which seems to be the way to go in terms of SATA, SATA-II or PCI-e? Are there even any affordable PCI-e ones available at the minute?

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They are stttuuuppppiiddddly fast. Any size wouldn't matter performance wise, but obviously the bigger it is, the more expensive it will be.

Many people use an SSD for just the OS and other essentials, the rest of their stuff goes into your bog standard hard drives.

SATA-II is what you're looking for, as PCI-E SSDs are astronomically expensive.

I'm personally checking out Seagate's new hybrid SSD/HDDs, the Momentus XT. It should give me the performance/capacity ratio I'm looking for
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Cheers.

Doesn't the apps being installed on a standard disk drive introduce read/write slowdown as the head has to move and access the files?
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OS and apps (certainly anything you load during the windows startup or everytime you use Windows) on the SSD is the usual configuration. Games and large media files on normal disks. They just use normal Sata 2 or Sata 3 connections.

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I wonder if the Seagate Momentus XT would give a performance advantage used purely as a storage disk? I already have SSD for my OS and am thinking of installing all my games on a hybrid.
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I wonder if the Seagate Momentus XT would give a performance advantage used purely as a storage disk? I already have SSD for my OS and am thinking of installing all my games on a hybrid.
Yes, go check the reviews at TomsHardware and Anandtech. Both reviews give conclusive results on gaming.
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This was in the YouTube thread but it was awesome so thought it should go in here:



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Look at the performance of this thing http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Compo...roductId=41963

Read speed 740 MB/s
Write speed 690 MB/s

Seems a lot of cash, but not when compared with the performance on offer
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Nice. It'll presumably be a few vertex 2's and a raid card pre-packed in a box. OCZ seem to do that with their drives. It means no trim support but nice speeds if the GC can keep up! Not sure how they handle firmware updates either as traditionally this can't be done over raid. OCZ don't seem to have released any for their previous Collossus or Revo drives - whether they didn't need them or updates aren't possible I don't know...
I reckon it'd be a safer bet to setup your own raid away if you have the ports free to do it.

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This was in the YouTube thread but it was awesome so thought it should go in here:
I think their "IT Genius" is still one of the marketing team if he thinks that you need "2 Quad core QX9775 Processors", "Two HD 4870 X2's in Crossfire" or "2x 1000 watt power supplies"* in order to demonstrate how fast a storage device is...

Other than that, nice effort.


*Current Samsung enterprise SSD's have a max power draw of 2.6W, so 24 of them would need 62.4W of PSU. Putting 2kW (or even 1kW and running the rest of the PC from the other) onto it would drop the PSU's far below their efficiency band and end up costing you more in power than you're saving by using SSDs! (unless you really pick your PSU carefully)
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I'm personally checking out Seagate's new hybrid SSD/HDDs, the Momentus XT. It should give me the performance/capacity ratio I'm looking for
I've got one of these coming tomorrow for my MacBook.

Hopefully it'll provide a healthy performance boost since it's replacing the Hitachi 120Gb 5400rpm HDD that was installed by Apple.

Edit: Bit sad I know, but I've been watching the stock levels for these over the last couple of days and they've been selling like hotcakes.

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Went and picked up the Momentus XT from the local City-Link depot this morning and have already got my Mac back up and running thanks to Time Machine - fantastic piece of software that!

Boot times are blisteringly fast, it wipes the floor with the old hard drive.

Will be interesting to see what everything's like once it's learnt a bit more about my usage patterns.
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Been thinking about these again as a single Windows 7 OS drive (not RAID) and have been looking at a couple of 64GBish ones but can't quite decide between these three:

OCZ Vertex 2 SE 60GB - Decent all-rounder and has the Sandforce controller.
Crucial RealSSD C300 64GB - Future-proof with SATA-III but poor write speeds.
Samsung 470 64GB - More expensive, doesn't support SATA-III, best performance.

I'm assuming the poor write speeds of the Crucial will make it slower at installing programs to the drive? Is this really going to be noticeable between the three drives in real-world performance?

So do I go for a good all-rounder in the OCZ, the Crucial which will get even faster speeds if I ever install a PCIe card to support 6Gbps, or the super fast Samsung which doesn't have the future upgrade possibilities?

I'd be interested to know what people's thoughts are on the above drives. I imagine whichever one I get will be excellent but I'm leaning towards the Samsung purely for the excellent performance.

EDIT - Oh and I forgot to ask, what are Samsung like when it comes to firmware upgrades for the controller? Do they release new ones often to keep up with the latest advances?

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Except for adding trim 18 months ago there hasn't been, and isn't likely to be, any feature advances. That's obviously standard now so most firmware updates are bug fixes.

I don't think the write speed matters too much - how often are you installing big apps to your OS drive?

I'm not personally familiar with the Samsung. They were kind of the 3rd choice controller in the 2nd gen SSD's which were dominated by the Indilinx and Intel drives. If it's known to have the best performance though I guess being late to the third round has suited them nicely! I'll have to read up on that.

Is any of them drastically cheaper than the other? I think they'd all be fairly similar in real world performance.

One thing I will say is that if you're not in a hurry, the C400 is due in the 1st quarter of 2011

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As far as installing apps go, when I install Windows, I'll be installing lots of software like AV, Firewall, Browsers, etc so I guess for that first day it will be heavily utilised but not a great deal after that.

The OCZ and the Crucial cost between £90-100, and the Samsung about £110-140.

I guess the Samsung is being talking about at the moment because they are using DDR NAND which could double thoeretical throughput. After going back and looking at a different review at Tom's Hardware though the Crucial seems just as good if not faster at most stuff, so it may have just been the review I was reading showing some favouritism.

Tom's Hardware roundup - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...-ssd,2783.html

'Thessdreview' roundup - http://thessdreview.com/our-reviews/...inal-thoughts/


Is garbage collection all incorporated into the TRIM nowadays, or is it something I'll need to worry about? I assume W7's onbaord TRIM will do most of the stuff for me in the background.

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You need either trim or GC or both. Most drives have both (intel the notable exception being trim only.) Trim pretty much only works in Windows 7 on a single drive on a sata 2 controller using the built into windows microsoft ide or ahci driver or intels driver. Pretty much any other OS, driver/controller or raid and trim doesn't work. Which is why GC is handy to have - though not in your case.
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