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Old 22-07-2008, 12:22   #41
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I read that a few days ago, and it merely confirms what we know with regard to how TDK will play in regular cinemas. I doubt that we'll hear more about the Blu-ray aspect ratio(s) until nearer the time of release.
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Old 26-07-2008, 19:08   #42
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Ok, i saw the movie at the IMAX today and thought it was awesome, both as a movie and an experience. But if they're going to follow through the presentation to the Blu-Ray release, then it could be problematic. The switches in ratio are not just from scene to scene (which wouldn't be too bad), but from shot to shot as well. Take the Hong Kong sequence for example, all the cityscapes and exteriors are in the 1.33:1 IMAX ratio, but all the interiors are 2.35:1. So we switch back and forth every few seconds or so. After the prologue, there are only a couple of scenes when we're watching any given ratio for more than a few minutes at a time. Watched on the giant IMAX screen, this isn't really an issue, as even the 2.35:1 shots are all-enveloping in terms of vision. But watched at home, no matter how big your panel, the switches of ratio are going to prove very distracting. Be interesting to see how they handle this one.
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Old 26-07-2008, 19:29   #43
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Thanks for that Chief, you've confirmed my worst fears about the shifting ratios.

I will buy this movie on Blu come what may as it's too darn good to pass up, but I will curse Nolan's name forever more if only the multi-aspect version is made available.
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Old 26-07-2008, 22:22   #44
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dark knight will be 17.99 rrp on bluray ( I only know the price not the tech specs)


a double pack of begins/dk will be released on dvd, not on bluray
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Old 27-07-2008, 08:56   #45
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just throwing in another example of a film that has used 2 aspect ratios - Brainstorm.

It was mostly 1.85, but in the bits where the scientists used the machine, it went to 2.35. In the cinema, this meant that the 'experiences' were bigger than the rest of the film, which certainly helped with the immersion into them.

On DVD, however, its less impressive because the 1.85 sequences are now actually bigger than the 2.35 bits. If they wanted to replicate the cinema experience, they should have released it with the 1.85 bits letterboxed on all four sides, in the middle of the screen, and then the 2.35 bits would be wider and more impressive. Would be awesome on a constant height 2.35 set up!!

Seems that TDK is basically the reverse of that, and would fit more easily within conventional displays, although reduced to 42", it may look strange and much more obvious to have it switching ratios so often. On a projector, though, thats what I want, anyway!

And lets campaign to get Brainstorm on Blu Ray - its a great film that to date has only had a rather poor NTSC release. I had it on Laserdisc back in the day, and would love to see it again.

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Old 29-09-2008, 15:26   #46
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http://www.darkhorizons.com/news08/080927f.php

link above states that Nolan has confirmed switching ratios for the Bluray disc
I'll hold judgement until i see it (still haven't seen this at all yet)
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Old 29-09-2008, 15:38   #47
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It should be at least optional. Not everybody has a 72" plasma screen!
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Old 29-09-2008, 15:38   #48
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They have announced the Blu-Ray has being enhanced with something called focus points, which I guess is the switching aspect ratio for the scenes shot in Imax. What has confused me though is that the Imax scenes are also available as a special feature.
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Old 29-09-2008, 16:59   #49
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you'd think this would all be a bit clearer by now with a press release from Warners, but its still all a bit vague isn't it!
I think until there's an actual disc review we still won't know
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Old 29-09-2008, 22:29   #50
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There's an article floating around about how Nolan used Blu-ray screeners to get the film out to industry types in the highest possible quality. He deliberately did the shifting ratios thing so that the viewers would get a taste of how the flick would play in IMAX, and he liked the result so much that he's sticking with it on the commercial Blu release. Tit.

Please please please please please please please please please please please let there be a fixed ratio option.
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Old 30-09-2008, 04:04   #51
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Focus points?? what does that mean? I hope some retarded symbol doesn't pop up and force you to press a button in order to see the section of the film in IMAX... that would really **** me off.
All it needs is to open up to 1.78 once the IMAX section to comes along. The aspect change was very carefully edited in, eg a dark scene faded -> dark scene so there was as little a chance of the viewer to notice or be "jarred" by it as possible. There is no reason why that wouldn't work on in the home. For them to include a "non imax" branched version, for those with 2.35 projector systems, would be trivial.
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Old 30-09-2008, 07:15   #52
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Well this has been posted over at 'the digital bits',
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In the meantime however, a LOT of you have sent in e-mails asking how the aspect ratio is going to work on the DVD and Blu-ray Disc editions of The Dark Knight (due 12/9). I've just heard back from Warner Home Video on this, so here's the deal: The widescreen versions of the DVD will present the film in a 2.40:1 anamorphic widescreen aspect ratio, reproducing the standard theatrical experience of the film. For the Blu-ray Disc however, while most of the film will also be presented in the 2.40:1 anamorphic widescreen ratio, the scenes that were specifically shot in IMAX format will be presented at 1.78:1, which will fill the frame and will thus recreate the IMAX experience at home. So there you have it. Should be cool, and we obviously can't wait to get our hands on the discs.
So that doesn't really answer the question then
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I refuse to believe that there won't be a 2.40:1 version of the film on blu ray. The format is still in its infancy as far as the public is concerned and this could be the biggest release yet, they can't afford to be fancy and experimental with it.
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"recreate the IMAX experience at home"
not even close
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I wonder if the limited edition boxset will come with a roll of gaffer tape so you can make your own mattes if so desired.
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I refuse to believe that there won't be a 2.40:1 version of the film on blu ray. The format is still in its infancy as far as the public is concerned and this could be the biggest release yet, they can't afford to be fancy and experimental with it.
Indeed. Seems like a pretty stupid thing to do considering TDK might well be alot of peoples first taste of Blu-Ray.
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"recreate the IMAX experience at home"
not even close
"Lookit dat extra inch ma! It's like I'm at the BFI right now!"
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When I get this, I'm gonna press my face up to the screen for that authentic IMAX experience.
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When I get this, I'm gonna press my face up to the screen for that authentic IMAX experience.
Yeah, I'm planning on running forward to stand 12 inches from the screen for the IMAX-y bits
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Having seen the film at an IMAX cinema I can say that by using hard cut the change in ratios was pretty much seemless; don't see why it shouldn't be any different at home albeit on a smaller scale?
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