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Old 24-11-2008, 23:47   #201
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If that was the case KRW, then why don't the IMAX shots have any ringing?
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Old 24-11-2008, 23:53   #202
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If that was the case KRW, then why don't the IMAX shots have any ringing?
I've no idea, but I'm certainly not getting all panicky over some screengrabs. Don't get me wrong, it'll be crap if they do look like that, but based on what I've seen of screengrabs, they don't look anything much like the actual disc.

Of course, it could be delibrate, they might think that its going to be a massive system seller, so will try to optimise it for smaller screens or something, but they'll have dropped the ball big time, if so.

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Old 25-11-2008, 05:16   #203
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Another review claiming the picture quality is excellent

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1825/darkknight.html

EE and halos mentioned, though it scores 4.5/5 on the image front.
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Old 25-11-2008, 06:47   #204
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Could it be that whoever was in charge of transferring and assembling these disparate elements was concerned that the clarity and detail of the IMAX stuff outdid the normal footage (naturally), so for the latter they dialled in a bit of edge enhancement to 'compensate'?
That's my guess as well. And it's a damn shame.
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Old 25-11-2008, 07:24   #205
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I'm more concerned that they gave the movie 4/5!
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Old 25-11-2008, 08:35   #206
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Blu Ray.com review gives it 5 then. HiDefDigest 4.5.

Sounds like it might have been better (from HDD) but no reason to get the DVD now.
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Old 25-11-2008, 09:33   #207
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Finally watched the IMAX prequel on Begins last night

It looks fantastic... and sounds great too!
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Finally watched the IMAX prequel on Begins last night

It looks fantastic... and sounds great too!
It is pretty jaw dropping. Another of the reasons why I don't mind the aspect ratio changes is how cramped the frame looks when its cropped for those open sequences. There are ratio comparisons somewhere out there and you do lose a lot from the top and bottom of the screen

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Old 25-11-2008, 12:32   #209
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Review at thedigitalbits:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/review...ightsting.html

I don't think i'll notice any of the small concerns they have anyway, like I said before I never notice Edge Enhancement.

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Old 25-11-2008, 12:41   #210
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I don't think the apsect ratio change will bother me at all. I've never had an issue with the way splitscreen is used in 24 and Brian DePalma movies. It's a similar principal really.

I'm sure a couple of Kubrick DVDs had shifting ratios as well but I honestly never noticed it until they were pointed out on here.
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About the UK edition is there anyone of you who can confirm or not the french subtitles like it seems there are on the back cover on zavvi.co.uk?
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Got my copy today. I shall have a gander tonight.
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Old 25-11-2008, 19:10   #213
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I don't think the apsect ratio change will bother me at all. I've never had an issue with the way splitscreen is used in 24 and Brian DePalma movies. It's a similar principal really.

I'm sure a couple of Kubrick DVDs had shifting ratios as well but I honestly never noticed it until they were pointed out on here.
TDK is a unique case though. Split-screen is a different device altogether and Kubrick's shifting ratios were little more than indistinct mattes that occasionally popped in and out of frame.

But to continually flit between narrow 'scope framing and taller 1.78 is something I've never seen before and I'm still dubious about it, having now seen a constant-height video version in which the IMAX scenes were framed perfectly in 2.35.
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Old 25-11-2008, 19:45   #215
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Never mind that, we're talking about the Blu-ray. Ba-dum-tish.

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Old 25-11-2008, 20:11   #216
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Can you give a review with some screen grabs?

I can't wait to see this again... but will have to wait for Christmas.

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Watched it tonight and although generally it is a decent transfer, it is not what it should be. It is clear, as has been pointed out, that artificial sharpening has been added to the 'regular' scenes, in order to attempt to bring them in line with the imax sequences, but it clearly doesn't work.

Any trainee display calibrator, could tell you that sharpening an image artificially actually destroys detail, which is why all sets have their sharpness turned way down when professionally seen to.

It is a scandal that a professional authoring house, should so spectacularly misunderstand this very basic of film processing, and when coupled with the rest of the discs contents, which feature dull, dull, dull extras, alongside a pretty decent soundtrack, make this a disappointing release.
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I've just blown through the big scenes and some of the 'Focus points' mini docs.

Well, rest easy as the opening scene looks as good as on the Batman begins blu ray, but sounds much better.

Ratio changes arent as distracting as I was expecting by any means, you get sucked into whats going on far too much. What is interesting is if you force yourself to look for the changes instead of concentrating on the action itself - far more of the film was shot in IMAX than I remember at the screening at the proper theatre. There though it was so in your face you simply stopped noticing and just watched the film!

Sound is tremendous. Probably the best True HD track I've heard. The deep bass and surround use, yet subtle parts of the mix too.... simply beats Transformers into submission. The music in particular - I know some of the reviews have said how 'subliminal' it is, but they are truly right. There are near silent basslines going on that I didnt notice at the IMAX screening, most noticibly in the Joker meeting the Mob scene near the start.

Extras... havent really touched them, the Focus point docs that I have watched are very thorough. The Bat Pod doc in particular... its one thing seeing it in the film, but when you see it working and steering as crazily on handheld camera footage... well. Round of applause for the people who built it. Who are all British incidently. Woo.

Oh and in the same doc, nothing can prepare you for the sight of the stunt driver belting along in full Batman body armour and fluttering cape... but with a white Stig helmet on.
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It's more the long shots I noticed the EE on and I'm not normally one to notice. I guess it's because such a big deal has been made of it. NO excuse for it really.
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That sounds about right, Lou.
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