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Old 17-12-2007, 02:02   #1
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Blu-ray region free at last!

Quite a surprise that no one has mentioned this but region mods are now available for certain BD players. Most of you will remember that before the era of cheap DVD players most DVD players also had to be modded with a chip

For some reason it seems that it's two Swedish companies that have found this solution, unless someone knows different, but the modded players can play Region A/B (not C!), as well as DVD region 1/2 which probably covers 99% of most peoples catalogue (past and future)

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Sony BDP-S300
Sony BDP-S500
Samsung BD-P1400 (soon)
Pioneer Elite 95/BDP-LX70A (soon)
Panasonic DMP-BD30 (soon)

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Sony BDP-S300
Sony BDP-S500
Samsung BD-P1400
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Old 17-12-2007, 04:13   #2
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Given 99.9% of people (possibly) own a PS3 for BD, not the most exciting of news...
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Old 17-12-2007, 06:32   #3
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But now people see a reason to buy another standalone player for this? if the price is right that is...
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I wonder if it really works? Im sure a working model will turn up on a hd/bluray/dvd forum somewhere very soon
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Old 17-12-2007, 08:39   #5
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I can't imagine Sony will let any region free mod supplier exist for long. Fingers crossed that this goes the way that DVD mods did, but I can see Sony sueing anyone into bankrupcy for bypassing BD region protection by way of a mod chip.
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Given 99.9% of people (possibly) own a PS3 for BD, not the most exciting of news...
99.9%? In the US, at least, it's more like 60%. Standalones are surprisingly popular not to mention cheaper. For those who MUST have a region free machine it's great news.

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I can see Sony sueing anyone into bankrupcy for bypassing BD region protection by way of a mod chip.
Well they can't do anything if someone mods a non-sony player and I doubt they can do anything anyway. How many modded Sony DVD players are available? No ones been sued into bankruptcy or if they have it hasn't effected the other retailers.

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And isn't the title a bit mis-leading? Blu Ray isn't region free. It has region code protection, and BD+ can interograte the machine and determine region hacks.

So when they drop region codes from the Blu Ray specification, then you can say that Blu Ray is region free.

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PS3 is Blu Ray

You'd be mad to buy a stand alone player...
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And isn't the title a bit midleading?
No, it is region free. Just because it's via a mod chip doesn't make it less so. There are plenty of people who have been waiting (too long IMHO) for a mod chip to be developed. Now that it has those who want a region free machine have an option

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You'd be mad to buy a stand alone player...
Unless you wanted great audio but didn't have an amp or you wanted a region free player. There are plenty of mad people around

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Well they can't do anything if someone mods a non-sony player and I doubt they can do anything anyway. How many modded Sony DVD players are available? No ones been sued into bankruptcy or if they have it hasn't effected the other retailers.
Good point! I've had a modded Sony DVD player since 2001, i bought from Richer Sounds!!! Thery're still around as far as i know.
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99.9%? In the US, at least, it's more like 60%. Standalones are surprisingly popular not to mention cheaper. For those who MUST have a region free machine it's great news.
Lou, and quite a few others on here, don't like facts.
They'd much rather bury their head in the sand and make stuff up.

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PS3 is Blu Ray

You'd be mad to buy a stand alone player...
So wanting a smaller, quieter unit (than a ps3) that outputs the new HD codecs via bitstream (which the ps3 can't do) qualifies you a mentally incompetent?

Ive imported a US ps3 purely for Blu-Ray playback but there are plenty of valid reasons for buying a standalone device. My wife certainly isn't happy about the size and looks of the ps3 given where it's going to have to sit. Now there's another reason to buy a standalone in the future, region free playback!

EDIT: Better mention I'm also got a Tosh EP35 and have more HD-DVD's than Blu-Rays

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Pot. Kettle. Black.

Besides, with the firmware and spec of Bluray needing to be updated shortly who's to say BR have not anticipated this and will act accordingly via updates... they did it with PSP emulators and what not, no doubt they will use the iron fist to control their new format.
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my first dvd player was from a sony authorised shop and they chipped it for me!

this is great news, they would be mad to sue people over this as its one big thing blu ray has against it compared to hd-dvd.
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No, it is region free. Just because it's via a mod chip doesn't make it less so.
Of course it makes it less so! It's not standard. Can you imagine walking into Dixons to pick up your Blu Ray box for 300 quid. Then paying to have your new unit shipped off somewhere to be canibilised and re-built, no doubt voiding the warranty, to include some special hardware device. Then find out three months later that the specification has changed and makes your player a brick. This is not something that the average person will want to do. And how much for this region free service?

That means that 200 quid HD region-free out-of-the-box HD DVD players are now even more of a bargain, as you don't have to pay to have the machine hacked on top of the 300 quid the Blu Ray player costs.

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Of course it makes it less so! It's not standard. Can you imagine walking into Dixons to pick up your Blu Ray box for 300 quid. Then paying to have your new unit shipped off somewhere to be canibilised and re-built, no doubt voiding the warranty, to include some special hardware device. This is not something that the average person will want to do. And how much for this region free service?

erm, isn't this what we all did with DVD back at the start ?
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PS3 is Blu Ray

You'd be mad to buy a stand alone player...
I also want an HD-DVD player, so am getting the Sammie combo machine which is available in Jan. I don't want two machines, I just want one that can cope with both, AND that will fit in looks-wise with my other equipment... so will have to disagree with you.

I still think the whole competing format malarky is a nonsense.
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Well they can't do anything if someone mods a non-sony player and I doubt they can do anything anyway. How many modded Sony DVD players are available? No ones been sued into bankruptcy or if they have it hasn't effected the other retailers.
I'm sure if Sony want to protect their investment in BD they'll happily take down anyone. If they want to sue a mod chip provider then they will and by taking them out they'll be removing the manufacturers and providers of mod chips for each and every BD player.

Region protection is a huge selling point for Sony when it comes to attracting studios - if that is gone then there's even less reason to be BD exclusive and they have far more financial interest in Blu-Ray than they have in DVD.
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Lou, and quite a few others on here, don't like facts.
They'd much rather bury their head in the sand and make stuff up.

99.9%.........
Slight, slight, SLIGHT possibility I wasn't being entirely serious with that figure
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No, it is region free. Just because it's via a mod chip doesn't make it less so. There are plenty of people who have been waiting (too long IMHO) for a mod chip to be developed. Now that it has those who want a region free machine have an option
How can it be region free if it can't play all the regions?

(I also think the thread title is misleading.)
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