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Old 15-08-2007, 15:30   #81
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I meant Sony in general, not blueray. Things like memory stick pro for example.
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Old 15-08-2007, 16:39   #82
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Only Sony's propriatory approach? Didn't the fact that HD DVD is propriatory put you off? I think it's important that the whole industry back a new format (or as close as possible).
How many times has it got be said that HD-DVD is an open format and not proprietary. An example of a proprietary format would be the UMD as no one else but Sony can produce them.
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Old 15-08-2007, 20:05   #83
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Only Sony's propriatory approach? Didn't the fact that HD DVD is propriatory put you off?
As proprietary as DVD then given it's backed by the DVD Forum (not The DVD Forums, though I don't know what Colin and the mods back ).

Anyway, as for PS3s. Doesn't matter where you buy them, you won't be able to watch Battlestar Galactica or Star Trek Original Series

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Old 15-08-2007, 20:32   #84
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Anyway, as for PS3s. Doesn't matter where you buy them, you won't be able to watch Battlestar Galactica or Star Trek Original Series
Oh I'm sure we can make do until there's a BD release with all the trimmings.
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Old 15-08-2007, 22:49   #85
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As proprietary as DVD then given it's backed by the DVD Forum (not The DVD Forums, though I don't know what Colin and the mods back ).

Anyway, as for PS3s. Doesn't matter where you buy them, you won't be able to watch Battlestar Galactica or Star Trek Original Series
Well there are ways...allegedly, apparently etc

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Old 17-08-2007, 08:40   #86
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Had a response back from dvdworldusa...

Dear HK,

I would suggest that you call Tony on 0871 222 0650 and discuss it with
him. He may be prepared to be flexible on the price but I would imagine that is depends on how similar the VG+ listing is - for example I would imagine their prices exclude VAT and customs charges.

An item like this would be shipped directly to you from the US.

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...so, you may be able to haggle the price down a bit as apparently VG+ mark down the value of their shipment to minimize any possibility of customs, I doubt this could be 100% reliable on a parcle of this weight and size though?!

...anyway, I now have another question that's bugging me. Will there still be the issue of PAL/NTSC as I only have a 'normal' TV? If this is the case would a US PS3 be able to handle UK PAL 'regionless' discs? I know that US standard DVD players can't handle PAL... ...blimey, this is getting complicated!
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Old 17-08-2007, 09:30   #87
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Starship Troopers UK Blu Ray runs fine on my US PS3, so no worries there.
Had my US PS3 a week now, arrived marked with a value of $55.95
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Old 17-08-2007, 09:38   #88
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Starship Troopers UK Blu Ray runs fine on my US PS3, so no worries there.
Had my US PS3 a week now, arrived marked with a value of $55.95
wouldn't mind knowing details of where u got it and how much? Very tempting
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Starship Troopers UK Blu Ray runs fine on my US PS3, so no worries there.
I didn't think these HD formats had PAL and NTSC technical differences only region coding on some Blu-ray Discs, that's the case with HD DVD minus any region coding, so no more PAL speedup.


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Had my US PS3 a week now, arrived marked with a value of $55.95
That's still over our limit though (£18) unless it was marked as a gift (£36) and might just get through.

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When goods are posted from outside the EU customs duty is only payable if the amount of duty is £7 and over. This applies to both purchases of goods and gifts. However, import VAT is payable on purchases of goods with a value of £18 and over, and on gifts if the value is £36 and over, and UK excise duty is payable on any alcohol or tobacco products sent through the post, even if they are sent as a gift. The rates of duty and VAT are determined by reference to The Integrated Tariff just like any other imported goods. Certain goods may also be prohibited.

Goods posted from the EU are normally admitted free of charge, although, again, UK excise duty is payable on any alcohol or tobacco products. Certain goods may also be prohibited.
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If this is the case would a US PS3 be able to handle UK PAL 'regionless' discs? I know that US standard DVD players can't handle PAL... ...blimey, this is getting complicated!

If you mean PAL DVDs then probably no. If you mean region free Blu-ray discs bought from the UK then yes.
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Old 17-08-2007, 12:01   #91
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That's still over our limit though (£18) unless it was marked as a gift (£36) and might just get through.
I'd rather pay the charges on £36 than £329 though...
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Politics is long gone. That was last year. HD-DVD has not built on it's advantage or gained the extra studio support it needs to survive. It can't survive without support and in the last 7 months it hasn't gained any more than when it started. It's lost it's advantage by inaction. Blu-ray is outselling and outnumbering HD-DVD now.
How come stand alone HD DVD player sales are 4-5 times the volume of standalond Bluray player sales then?
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If Terribly_Mauled got his from VG+ then I presume he means Canadian Dollars which might let it slip through?!

Regarding this whole PAL/NTSC thing that I'm finding confusing, I suppose it's simpler if I ask the obvious question... ...will you be able to play back both US and UK BluRay discs on a normal non-HD telly, one that doesn't have HDMI and doesn't take 1080p, 1080i or 720p signals? I haven't upgraded my old JVC CRT set as yet and, although I'm desperate to get a PS3, this potential obstacle could push the £329.99 price up to a more realistic £2K for me at least!!
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How come stand alone HD DVD player sales are 4-5 times the volume of standalond Bluray player sales then?
Seems like a fairly obvious answer to me. Only an infinitesimally small minority would choose a standalone Blu-ray player over a PS3, while only a fool would buy a loudmouth 360 for the purpose of watching HD-DVD films.
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I'd rather pay the charges on £36 than £329 though...
Most definitely.
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How come stand alone HD DVD player sales are 4-5 times the volume of standalond Bluray player sales then?

Because a PS3 is the best (more or less) Blu-ray player currently on the market. I'm sure once October comes around and we start to get more choice and better pricing on BD standalones they will start to shift as well.
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Regarding this whole PAL/NTSC thing that I'm finding confusing, I suppose it's simpler if I ask the obvious question... ...will you be able to play back both US and UK BluRay discs on a normal non-HD telly, one that doesn't have HDMI and doesn't take 1080p, 1080i or 720p signals? I haven't upgraded my old JVC CRT set as yet and, although I'm desperate to get a PS3, this potential obstacle could push the £329.99 price up to a more realistic £2K for me at least!!
I watched a bit of Casino Royale Blu Ray on my CRT before I got my LCD screen no problem. I think you just have to make sure your PS3 is outputting to your chosen connection and the correct resolution and it will do the rest.
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As for Star Wars being released as a HD-DVD exclusive does anyone really think that if the market for blueray is there then Luca$ etc will ignore that market?
I think the whole Star Wars thing has lost its lustre after Lucas completely messed up its legacy with those infernal prequels and the CGI touch-ups. I notice there aren't many (any?) "When is Star Wars coming to HD?" threads - I'm guessing nobody cares anymore (I certainly don't )

Anyway, I'm with DeadKenny on this one hoping that HD-DVD at the very least prevails.

As for the actual thread topic, get something that can play US discs is my advice, otherwise you'll eventually be dealing with BBFC cuts, potential speedups and those blasted piracy intros which I absolutely hhhhhate!
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I want hd-dvd OR Bluray to win, I just want to buyrent ALL the films that I want on one format. made the point about Bluay Starwar because someone said that if it came out as a hd-dvd exclusive then it would win the war on is own. I can only see Luca$ etc following the money...

I would not get them anyways as I have the excellent SkyHD rips.
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Seems that folks are buying a US PS3 for BluRay and a stand alone machine for UK HD?

I have no idea what direction to go. I was gonna order some BDs in the Amazon BOGOF but the ones I wanted were zone locked...

Now for the dumb question. Can the machines be hacked to play all zones?

I've asked in shops and nobody can tell me
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