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Old 05-05-2006, 14:02   #61
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Cheers, Jim! I envy the lucky few who got to see the longer cut on the big screen over here.
I've gone for the R1 dvd then as I do expect the R2 release to be identical, as you say. If EiV do ever release the longer cut at least we know it'll be Ł7.99 within a month!
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Old 08-05-2006, 12:59   #62
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My R1 turned up on saturday. As expected Audio and Video quality appears to be superb. Haven't had chance to check out the documentary yet.
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Old 08-05-2006, 17:57   #63
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I just got the R1, and to me the video quality is less than stellar. There's a disappointing softness to the transfer (where's the grain?) and skin tones can look very over-cooked. It looks like DVD does when you apply too much noise reduction; compression artefacts are not an issue but you lose that three-dimensionality that the best transfers have. There are noticable edge halos too, which reduces fine detail even further. Sound is nice though.

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Old 08-05-2006, 18:12   #64
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Well you shoudlnt see grain on the scenes shot on 65 mm not that there will be a marker saying this scene was shot BIG.
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Old 08-05-2006, 19:01   #65
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I haven't been able to spot any differences in grain structure, given how soft this transfer looks. Colours are poorly rendered too, with clear banding occuring during those underwater shots at the beginning of the film, for example.

I'm sure many will be more than happy with it, but I'm very disappointed. The seven-year-old R1 DVD of The Thin Red Line looks better than this.
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Old 09-05-2006, 15:02   #66
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got the R3 from cd-wow today - will have a quick look at PQ later on when i'm home and report
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:10   #67
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PQ looks very good indeed on the R3 - had a quick flick through as i've not watched it yet. DTS sounds crisp and clear and saw no sign of banding on the underwater shots - Niceguygeoff - do you have a time and i'll double check the time you say (both R3 and R1 NTSC and 135 mins long)
No extras on the R3 - just the film.
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Old 10-05-2006, 15:44   #68
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It's just after the credits, from 3:25 to about 3:40. Pocohontas goes for a swim and there are a couple of underwater shots with noticable, er, 'bandage'. And it manifests itself noticeably on skin tones in certain scenes; check chapter 8 (R1), onwards from about the 35:20 mark. There's also a weird blue fringing around Colin Farrell's face at 80:45, chapter 15.

These are little niggles, I grant you - I've seen this hailed as "reference quality" elsewhere - but dammit I wanted this to be perfect. Still, the sheer beauty of the film cannot be dulled, and as far as compression goes it's a superb effort. I didn't notice a single instance of blocking, which gives the film a supremely smooth look that will no doubt please most who buy this disc.
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So R1 or R3 peeps?
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Old 18-05-2006, 22:31   #70
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Rik, I watched my R1 last saturday and thought both the visuals and audio were superb. Now im no expert on quality, but I can tell the difference between bad, average, good and great, and this film was easily great. I would even say reference quality in my lay person opinion.

The DD5.1 track is especially good, particularly given this is a film where they could have really not bothered. Dialogue was clear, effects sounded superb and the use of surround was exceptional. The score sounded brillant.

So i'd say if you want the doc thats on the R1 go for the R1 as the DD5.1 is brillant. But if you don't care about the doc then go for R3 as the DTS track is bound to be as good as, if probably a tad better than the already brillant DD.
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Old 25-05-2006, 11:20   #71
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Can anybody confirm that the UK disc is the shorter version? I'm hoping by some miracle it's not, because I just watched the 135 minute R1 DVD after seeing the 150 min cut twice in the theater, and was really disappointed.

Much that was poetic and intentionally vague in the 150 min version is spelled out in revised voiceovers and added scenes of exposition. (Yes there are added scenes, despite the film being 15 mins shorter.)

Malick clearly responded to the critics who said it was too confusing and too slow, also gutting much of the Pocahontas/Smith love affair. People said the 150 min version had too much of them rolling around in the grass, but I loved every frame. Their growing relationship when Smith is a captive of the "naturals" feels much too brief now, and doesn't give the foundation their later separation needs.

Fingers crossed that the UK disc is the longer cut, or else my quest to find it on disc will continue.

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Old 25-05-2006, 11:37   #72
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Sorry friend, looks like the UK DVD is the 135 minute cut:

BBFC Report.
129 minutes PAL DVD equates to a 135 minute film run-time.

Its possible that a 'directors cut' DVD might surface in a few years time, but until then, it is likely that the European DVD releases will be identical (but keep your eyes open for Germany).
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i saw this on sunday night and found it totally compelling. everything about it was brilliant.
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This film put me to sleep within an hour.

Utterly boring.
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Old 01-06-2006, 20:24   #75
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I'm a cheapskate - can anyone confirm that the R3 transfer is properly progressive? Me no want combing!
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Ug, I just got back from seeing this in the cinema. I'm glad it was only the 135 minute cut, I'd have died if they had shown any more nausiating hand-held shots, random walking people or stock nature footage.

Malick's direction is pretty terrible. He tries for gritty looking battle scenes, but without any blood - and the entire battle scene makes no sense, the action keeps shifting between attack and defence in some pretentious arty style. Let not even get started on the use of quiet music in action scenes that has been done to death. Despite the film's long run-time, every scene is edited to within an inch of its life - although Malick tries to create some fake Dogme style he keeps cutting between cameras like he's experimenting with editing. The film apparently had over 166 hours of footage and it shows, it looks pieced together.

Generally, too long, too edited and without any particular merit.
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How can it be a "fake" dogme style when it's essentially the same aesthetic he used in Badlands and Days of Heaven?

My main concern with the film was its ellipticism - which I take to be the result of Malick paring down the narrative considerably.
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Can anyone comment on the picture quality of the R2? Caps of the R1 are here . Thanks in advance.
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I've got the R2 - I can do you some equivalent grabs when I get home, if you like.
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Only had time to do a couple:




R1 looks sharper and brighter to me (filtering on the R2). Grabs taken with PowerDVD 6.0.
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