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Old 27-07-2008, 18:03   #81
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I have listened to the whole thing and didn't hear anything about the:



What did I miss?



It kinda sounds like that scene happens in the way that it does out of necessity to the plot rather than something that's true to the character of Batman (as he's presented in this film).
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Just got back from seeing this and WOW... what a film. Nothing much more to say as its all been mentioned already. Best film I have seen ages. Went on this silly hot day so as not to have it ruined by bits of kids messing on their phones and talking. Made the right choice as the cinema was dead.
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Bale's ridiculously growly voice while as Batman also didn't work for me during the extended conversations. In BB he was always shrouded in darkness and spoke very little. During the face-to-face conversations in well lit rooms, I was just hoping someone would offer him a Strepsil. Keaton's quiet, low tone worked a lot better.
The thing is, we all remember him speaking like that in Begins - but he doesn't. Bale's voice is lower, yet he doesn't affect the Dirty Harry-esque hoarseness that he does in Dark Knight, which is rightly being derided as daft.

Still, I can live with it. If I can buy the premise of a bloke running around fighting evil while dressed as a giant bat (this flashed through my mind during the opening to TDK, as I hadn't seen anything Bat-related in a while) then I can accept his voice. The line about 'hockey pants' was a zinger though, no matter how gravelly the delivery of it.
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The thing is, we all remember him speaking like that in Begins - but he doesn't. Bale's voice is lower, yet he doesn't affect the Dirty Harry-esque hoarseness that he does in Dark Knight, which is rightly being derided as daft.
Yep compare and contrast his final coversation in begins with this.

Probably best not to watch this unless you;ve seen the film.

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Already the summer's biggest film after only 10 days - only dropping 53% in its second weekend. 500 mil now well within reach...
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No probs man, I'm sure the experience hasn't been ruined at all for me I just think it's for the best that those who've seen it keep as many surprises for the rest of us! I do enjoy reading non-spoiler thoughts and comments though.

(2 hours twenty-three minutes to go!)
Interested to know what you think of the movie - give us your review!

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Already the summer's biggest film after only 10 days - only dropping 53% in its second weekend. 500 mil now well within reach...
The estimated $75m is also the 2nd weekend record which was held by Spider-Man in 2002. As you said, in 10 days it's already the biggest film of the summer, passing Iron Man and Indy 4 without so much as a wave.

It's pretty amazing that no film currently sits in the $500-599m category. Adjusted sure, but I like looking at numbers unadjusted first (not that adjusted numbers aren't important). If Dark Knight doesn't reach $500m it will at least get closer than any film before it (except Titanic, which crossed the $600m milestone). The Dark Knight has grossed so much money in such a short space of time, rave reviews (except Godfather fans, lol, I can't believe there is actually a "war" going on over at IMDb because of a silly ratings board, THAT is the insanity the internet brings out in some people) that it is just

But at the same time it shows how seemingly untouchable Titanic's record is, cos this film might take 2nd place, but it's not getting near the ill-fated ship.
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It's funny because I came out on Thursday thinking that it was a 15 rated movie masquerading as a 12A, yet reading the BBFC advice [some mild spoilers] this weekend, it actually made a lot of sense.

The fact that there is little emphasis on injury during he fight scenes (yes, besides on Two-Face - who looked totally mean!), while many of the worst acts of violence weren't shown directly on screen. I think it's the dark and menacing tone to the film and its characters that makes it all seem so much more hard-hitting than it is.

A hard '12' (like the video rating) is what this film needs. 12A is fine as long as parents respect what that it doesn't automatically mean 'anyone can come, so bring the whole family'. Which they clearly don't.
Having just come back from watching it with my 7 and 8 year olds I have to say I wish I had viewed the BBFC advice on this one, was thinking that although you don't actually see any major violence it is hinted at very strongly and leaves little to the imagination (at least my kids were still asking me tons of questions afterwards!!!)

I think they do push the limits of what is acceptable in 12As now but as the info is available on BBFC I suppose as a prent you have the choice whether you want to just take you8r kids and 'risk it' or do your homework first (which I think wouold be advisable if you haven't seen it yet and are thinking of taking the young'uns
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Without turning this thread in to a censorship debate, I first saw Robocop (An 18) when I was 7 years old (1989) from the Video shop.

I also taped Predator, Aliens, The Terminator, Childs Play etc off TV around the same sort of time and watched those endlessly. I would like to believe it hasn't affected me in adult life, other than maybe desensitizing me to on-screen violence somewhat. I'm 26 and I've never gotten in to a fight with anyone, nor do I swear more than the average person.

So in summary, the violence and gore never did me any harm.

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Without turning this thread in to a censorship debate, I first saw Robocop (An 18) when I was 7 years old (1989) from the Video shop.

I also taped Predator, Aliens, The Terminator, Childs Play etc off TV around the same sort of time and watched those endlessly. I would like to believe it hasn't affected me in adult life, other than maybe desensitizing me to on-screen violence somewhat. I'm 26 and I've never gotten in to a fight with anyone, nor do I swear more than the average person.

So in summary, the violence and gore never did me any harm.

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I agree and I was the same, don't think this will do them any harm either (and they enjoyed it as much as I did) I guess my point is that 12a films do seem to be pushing the boundaries of what potentially any kid over the age of 4 or 5 could easily see with mum and dad (if they don't check out the guidance notes 1st) also when you think of some of the scenes with Dent after the incident then this level of SFX 10 years ago could feasibly have made it a 15 and with violence or 'terror' could even have gone up to 18s which is probably the point I am highlighting?
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I thought Freddy Krueger was funny when I was a kid , films like Predator, Terminator all had positive affects...

Only Hellraiser scared the crap out of me.
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Oh, God, have I gone mad, or is it that the world has gone mad and I'm the only sane person left? I can't believe that so many seem to think this is the greatest film ever made, or even the second coming of the Messiah! Does nobody else but me think that it's an incoherent mess, dully acted (apart from Heath Ledger, though I'd hesitate to call his performance Oscar-worthy), poorly scripted (just one set-piece after another, with no real sense of building to a climax, and often extremely confusing) and in the action scenes, scrappily directed and edited, so that it's often difficult to know what's going on or who's doing what to whom (I'm thinking in particular of the chase with the truck and the climactic scene on top of the skyscraper)? I quite liked Batman Begins, and was really looking forward to this. I found myself bored after twenty minutes, and really couldn't wait for it to end. It's a totally cold film, all flash and no substance, and with zero emotional involvement. I've rarely come out of a cinema so depressed.
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Oh, God, have I gone mad, or is it that the world has gone mad and I'm the only sane person left? I can't believe that so many seem to think this is the greatest film ever made, or even the second coming of the Messiah! Does nobody else but me think that it's an incoherent mess, dully acted (apart from Heath Ledger, though I'd hesitate to call his performance Oscar-worthy), poorly scripted (just one set-piece after another, with no real sense of building to a climax, and often extremely confusing) and in the action scenes, scrappily directed and edited, so that it's often difficult to know what's going on or who's doing what to whom (I'm thinking in particular of the chase with the truck and the climactic scene on top of the skyscraper)? I quite liked Batman Begins, and was really looking forward to this. I found myself bored after twenty minutes, and really couldn't wait for it to end. It's a totally cold film, all flash and no substance, and with zero emotional involvement. I've rarely come out of a cinema so depressed.

Well said, thats very much how i felt. Im a big movie fan and usually find Rotten Tomatoes spot on with my take on a film. This one has turned that on its head. Just want to know why?
Will see it again ASAP.
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I'm talking about the comics from the 70s and 80s not graphic novels.
This felt like the Batman of the 80s comics, that was the primary feeling I got out of this film. Where Batman would be chasing knife-wielding psycho street crims more than OTT super bad guys.

The imax scenes were utterly jaw-dropping!
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I have to say, I don't understand why some people have a problem with the plotting. For me, everything introduced early seemed to have some significance later in the movie and there was very little that could be dropped because of that.

The only thing - on reflection - that could do with some tightening was the aforementioned


But otherwise it made perfect sense to me, and I can't see how some others were confused.

But hey - no movie's perfect for everyone.
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I've rarely come out of a cinema so depressed.
Mate, it's only a movie.
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I saw this - this afternoon and thought it a tad slow and boring in places ... yes the Joker is excellant and Bale's voice as Batman is a tad irritating. The standout performance for me was Oldman. I'd probably not go and see it again at the cinema and wait for the DVD - not my favourite so far of the summer - that goes to 'Iron Man'
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Oh, God, have I gone mad, or is it that the world has gone mad and I'm the only sane person left? I can't believe that so many seem to think this is the greatest film ever made, or even the second coming of the Messiah!
I don't think anyone here has said it's the greatest movie ever. I am surprised you don't like it at all though. I guess you can't please all the people all the time.
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Saw this tonight and the word I would use to describe it is relentless, Just seemed to be an extended remix of the second half of the 1st film, I don't think I enjoyed it as much as Begins and its certainly not my fav Chris Nolan film as its not as good as The Prestige, but it was enjoyable and as much as it dragged bit I don't think I was ever bored

Not as good as Wall-E for me
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