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Old 08-10-2007, 06:23   #1
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Zulu---New Special Edition

I found out yesterday that a new 2-disc special edition is being released in November.

However none of the sites that I have visited show what is on the discs.

I'm trying to see if there is much difference to the single disc special edition I purchased some years back.

Anyone have any info?.
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Old 10-10-2007, 09:18   #2
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The single disc edition was a very poor transfer:telecine wobble and a ridiculously low bit rate(below the critical minimum ie grass was a hazy digitised mess).The new release will obviously have the film on one disc,however if it is not taken from a new master i would check reviews before purchasing.

I own the MGM R1 release which does not have telecine wobble or the compromised bit rate,but does have a problem with the soldiers' uniforms being morew orange than red.

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Old 10-10-2007, 09:40   #3
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wow don't remember the old transfer being terrible I'll have to give it another watch, Zulu is one film I could watch on a loop, almost.
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The Beaver has done a comparison of the various editions of Zulu, including a couple of crummy PD releases from the States - see here


Personally, I've never felt that my copy of the Paramount R2 was a disaster. Maybe it's not perfect but it's a long, long way from being unwatchable. I'd also suggest waiting on some reviews before jumping in.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm heartily sick of double-dipping and even if the new release blows the current transfer out of the water I feel it's highly unlikely that I'll be biting.
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The Paramount R2 looked OK to me and it's in Surround which, for me, makes the mono MGM R1 worthless.
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I received the new 2-disc edition yesterday,and watched it last night.The transfer,which was so flawed on the previous R2 release is superb.The detail,contrast and colours are excellent;it is encoded at around 7-10bps so the problem with the grass looking a digitised mess,due to the ludicrously low previous encoding level is solved.The telecine wobble has also gone.This is undoubtedly a new transfer,i guess it is taken from a new high-definition master.This release which i compared to my MGM R1 is without question the version to own.Superb.
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I received the new 2-disc edition .
Is this an R1 or R2 SE?
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The Beaver has done a comparison of the various editions of Zulu, including a couple of crummy PD releases from the States - see here


Personally, I've never felt that my copy of the Paramount R2 was a disaster. Maybe it's not perfect but it's a long, long way from being unwatchable. I'd also suggest waiting on some reviews before jumping in.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm heartily sick of double-dipping and even if the new release blows the current transfer out of the water I feel it's highly unlikely that I'll be biting.
How about double dipping when you haven't even looked at the first version ? I can't be the only one to have done that.
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How about double dipping when you haven't even looked at the first version ? I can't be the only one to have done that.

I've certainly done that in the past - but I've now come to the point that I categorically refuse to double dip unless the the version of a movie that I own is one that I deem virtually unwatchable. I have a few titles in my possession that fulfil that criterion but I don't feel Zulu is one of them.
Sure, I'll admit that - from what I've heard - the new edition sounds like a great improvement. The thing is that the old edition doesn't seem bad enough to my eyes to warrant an upgrade.

I really wish Paramount would spend their time and effort releasing unavailable titles, instead of their constant recycling of material.
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Like i said in another forum:
I recently bought the new Zulu 2 disc special edition and i'll have to say extra wise it doesn't add that much.
Of course it's always good to let the movie be on one disc picture wise and extras on another, but for the life of me i don't understand why on earth Paramount did not make these new featurettes 16:9.
The two from the old disc are but not THESE and the trailer is also letterboxed non anamorphic.
On the budget MGM R1 edition the trailer on that one is Anamorphic!!!!!

Speaking of 16:9 featurettes,the new R1 of Chinatown is also a mess.
The new featurettes on this disc are NOT 16:9.
COME ON PARAMOUNT try to do this right for once.

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Is this an R1 or R2 SE?
It is the R2 2-disc edition which has just been released.
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I've certainly done that in the past - but I've now come to the point that I categorically refuse to double dip unless the the version of a movie that I own is one that I deem virtually unwatchable. I have a few titles in my possession that fulfil that criterion but I don't feel Zulu is one of them.
Sure, I'll admit that - from what I've heard - the new edition sounds like a great improvement. The thing is that the old edition doesn't seem bad enough to my eyes to warrant an upgrade.

I really wish Paramount would spend their time and effort releasing unavailable titles, instead of their constant recycling of material.

Yea, a very good looking, very special ed. of "One Eyed Jacks" would be nice.
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Yea, a very good looking, very special ed. of "One Eyed Jacks" would be nice.
Agreed! I'd love to be able to send my VHS recording off the BBC to that archive in the sky.
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