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Old 27-02-2018, 20:53   #361
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I don't think anyone has forgot the early seasons of TNG or DS9 even

The honest trailer for TNG is great

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Old 27-02-2018, 20:55   #362
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Yeah, that's a classic
"Doctor Beverly Crusher, who's just there most of the time" And she's one of my favourite characters!
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Old 27-02-2018, 21:33   #363
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Everyone seems to complain about the first couple of seasons of TNG, but there's some really good stuff mixed in with the not-so-good. I'm re-watching the whole thing a few eps a week, and I'd forgotten how universally dull and forgettable most of season 7 is.
Unfortunately the amount of bad was more than good and that's bad any way you slice it.

But just for the fun of it the best of season 1 for me are

About half of Encounter at Farpoint
The Battle
Hide and Q
Conspiracy
The Neutral Zone

That's 20 episodes that are totally forgettable

Best of Season 2

Elementary, Dear Data
he Measure of a Man
Contagion
Time Squared
Q Who
Peak Performance

Best Of Season 3

The Survivors
Booby Trap
The Defector
Yesterday's Enterprise
The Most Toys
The Best of Both Worlds

Season 3 the cast was working well together less wooden. Tasha Yar gone who was never good to begin with; much better as Sela. Worf on the bridge for season 1 and 2 what did he do?

Compared to TOS you have several superfluous characters that still needed to be written for.

TOS Kirk, Spock , Bones, Mcoy, Sulu for me are the main

TNG Picard, Riker, Data, Troi, Crusher/Pulaski, La Forge, Worf, Yar, Wesley

Data easily does both Helm and Science; subbing for Sulu and Spock
Crusher/Pulaski for bones (I though she was a better counter to Troi and Picard Beverly just seems to agree to easily.)
La Forge For Scotty
Riker should have had a job of tactical but his main job is job is commanding away teams and keeping the seat warm when Picard nips off to the Lavvi

So you have trimmed the crew down from 9 to 5, opening credit would not take so long to read; imagine how much extra story you could pack in

Troi I think he's hiding something but I cannot say what, very useful. B5 used telepaths to better effect.
Wesley who who'd want a little know it all kid on the bridge anyway you'd just want to **** hit across the back of the head (maybe that's what Picard did and in Season 8 he would have had Picard up on charges.
Worf and Yar are not needed
Ship's Computer a character in itself sorry way overused and I didn't like the voice B5's computer was hotter

Where TNG went wrong in its early seasons was not trying to link back to TOS, Never going into the Mirror Universe, return to familiar planets and avoiding any mini arcs until the end of season 3. Throwaway bottle episodes every week where the outcome never/rarely affected a future episodes got stale.

With Voyager some episodes did affect future events and the whole series had an overriding arc about getting home.
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Old 27-02-2018, 21:52   #364
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While Discovery was ok it was not Star Trek, so you make a show that shares so little with what has come before you pretty much alienate a large section of the audience. DS9 managed that balance really well, firmly entrenched in Star Trek lore but different enough for it to standout. Result was still pretty much the same, most of the Trek audience didn't like it.

Star Trek Orville shows how to do a first season of a TNG like show.
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Old 27-02-2018, 22:05   #365
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While Discovery was ok it was not Star Trek, so you make a show that shares so little with what has come before you pretty much alienate a large section of the audience. DS9 managed that balance really well, firmly entrenched in Star Trek lore but different enough for it to standout. Result was still pretty much the same, most of the Trek audience didn't like it.

Star Trek Orville shows how to do a first season of a TNG like show.
Thats because the Orville was just TNG scripts rewritten a bit and I actually like the show
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Old 15-06-2018, 19:09   #366
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The showrunners have been fired. Abusive behaviour, apparently.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/li...n-take-1120416

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Old 19-06-2018, 19:52   #367
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News today that more new Star Trek shows are in development over at CBS, and one of them hopes to have Patrick Stewart return as Picard. If that did end up happening my guess it would be a miniseries rather than a full TV show. Stewart has shown resistance in the past to returning to the role, but once the Tarantino Trek film was announced he mentioned he was now more open to it.

But seriously, who wouldn't want a TNG reunion? That would be goldmine for CBS.

https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/sta...an-1202842335/
http://ew.com/tv/2018/06/19/alex-kur...r-trek-series/

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The potential new shows are said to include:
  • A series set at Starfleet Academy from creators Stephanie Savage and Josh Schwartz. The duo most recently developed the CW’s reboot of “Dynasty” and previously created shows like “Gossip Girl” and Hulu and Marvel’s “Runaways.”
  • A limited series whose plot details are being kept under wraps.
  • A limited series based around the “Wrath of Khan” story. Khan’s full name is Khan Noonien Singh. He was famously portrayed by Ricardo Montalbán in both the original series episode “Space Seed” and again in the film “Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan.” Benedict Cumberbatch then played the character in the 2013 film “Star Trek Into Darkness.”
  • An animated series whose plot details are being kept under wraps.

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Old 19-06-2018, 21:14   #368
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News today that more new Star Trek shows are in development over at CBS, and one of them hopes to have Patrick Stewart return as Picard. If that did end up happening my guess it would be a miniseries rather than a full TV show. Stewart has shown resistance in the past to returning to the role, but once the Tarantino Trek film was announced he mentioned he was now more open to it.

But seriously, who wouldn't want a TNG reunion? That would be goldmine for CBS.

https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/sta...an-1202842335/
http://ew.com/tv/2018/06/19/alex-kur...r-trek-series/

Stewart has shown resistance in the past to returning to the role.

Resistance is futile
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First trailer for season 2. Looks absolutely brilliant.



Additionally, we'll be getting some short anthology style episodes (10-15 mins long) towards the end of this year.
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Looks so much more light hearted which it really needed.

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I do get the feeling that the producers have listened to at least some of the criticisms.
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The lift scene is very much The Orville type scene

I liked the Mirror universe stuff in s1 but the show needed to find a balance, hopefully they have.
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Looks good, wish they ditch the discovery uniforms, Pikes TOS replica looks better than the Kelvin version.

Whenever Pike is on screen Burnham just disappears into the background; more convinced than ever she needs to go or get and upgrade.
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This looks really good. I agree with what has already been posted: the more light hearted vibe, Orville influences and the original series uniforms... Do we know how many episodes are in Season 2?

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This looks really good. I agree with what has already been posted: the more light hearted vibe, Orville influences and the original series uniforms... Do we know how many episodes are in Season 2?
13 episodes and Anson Mount is signed up for all of them
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More details on one of the upcoming short films:

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At Friday afternoon’s Star Trek: Discovery Comic Con panel, executive producer Alex Kurtzman first revealed that Season 2 of the series would be preceded by a set of four “short films,” called Short Treks, starting this Fall.

Two of the 10-15 minute entries will focus on Tilly (Mary Wiseman) and Saru (Doug Jones) — and a third will be directed by Rainn Wilson and center on Harry Mudd — but the fourth will be the first to feature a yet-unseen character in the Discovery universe.

The new character, called Craft, will be portrayed by actor Aldis Hodge, and tell the story of “a man who finds himself the only human on board a deserted ship” — and that story will be told by Pulitzer Prize-winning writer Michael Chabon.
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Patrick Stewart to return as Jean Luc Picard in a new Star Trek series
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So possibly two Trek shows on TV just like the good old days.

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Patrick Stewart to return as Jean Luc Picard in a new Star Trek series
hopefully this is the plot

Patrick Stewart: Yeah. For instance, I'm walking along, and I see this beautiful girl, and I think I'd like to see her naked, and so all her clothes fall off.

Andy Millman: All her - clothes fall off?

Patrick Stewart: Yes, and she's scrabbling around to get them back on again, but even before she can get her knickers on, I've seen everything. Yeah. I've seen it all.


Patrick Stewart: Well, I do other stuff; like I'm riding my bike in the park, and this policewoman says "Oi! You can't ride your bike on the grass!" and I go "Oh no?" And her uniform falls off, and she goes "Ahh!" and she's trying to cover up, but I've seen everything anyway. And I get on my bike and I ride off. On the grass.
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