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Old 29-01-2018, 21:16   #261
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Great ep, but as with all Star Trek when someone they don't want is on the loose,
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Old 29-01-2018, 22:50   #262
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My co-worker will be a pain tomorrow as he gets man-childish when his theories are wrong as he thought it was double bluff about Lorca being the Terran version

Hopefully they don't "fix" the storyline with some voyager time travel reset button
Hasn't this episode proved they can jump to anywhere and any time they want ?
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Old 30-01-2018, 13:49   #263
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Hmm, still not really doing it for me.
It seriously needs to do something to let us know more of the bridge crew to give it a more Star trek crew feel.
Also not really liking how the "spore network" can just suddenly behave in a situatin that can save them.
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Old 30-01-2018, 17:05   #264
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Hasn't this episode proved they can jump to anywhere and any time they want ?
maybe not in time but my point would be it would quite lazy like Voyager, where they techno babble out of situation
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Old 30-01-2018, 19:09   #265
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maybe not in time but my point would be it would quite lazy like Voyager, where they techno babble out of situation
You can already tell they will discover that there was a pivotal point in the war when the Federation lost and travel back in time to change the events.
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Old 30-01-2018, 19:16   #266
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You can already tell they will discover that there was a pivotal point in the war when the Federation lost and travel back in time to change the events.
they may be setting up a guerrilla war against the klingons but it would be very lazy if they jump back to when they left for the MU
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Old 30-01-2018, 22:04   #267
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they may be setting up a guerrilla war against the klingons but it would be very lazy if they jump back to when they left for the MU
Not sure how it would be lazy.

Being able to travel in time, if they can, it would make perfect sense story wise for them to go back rather than take on the entire Klingon fleet on their own.
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Old 31-01-2018, 13:33   #268
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Hasn't this episode proved they can jump to anywhere and any time they want ?
or maybe use harry mudds time travel thingy?
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Old 31-01-2018, 14:09   #269
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Not sure how it would be lazy.

Being able to travel in time, if they can, it would make perfect sense story wise for them to go back rather than take on the entire Klingon fleet on their own.
I suppose if you hadn't see First Contact it wouldn't be lazy, or Genesis of the Darleks, etc.
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The weak part of Discovery has been the Klingon side of things in my opinion. The series and characters have really come into itheir own in recent episodes and it would be sad to see everything drift back to where it was before the mirror universe multi-episode story. At this point, can’t believe I’m writing this, I think I would be happy with a big reset button.


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Old 31-01-2018, 21:58   #271
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Not sure how it would be lazy.

Being able to travel in time, if they can, it would make perfect sense story wise for them to go back rather than take on the entire Klingon fleet on their own.

Because you can do anything then have a giant reset button like it never happened. they might as well not shown the bit where the klingons have won. It would be more crappy if they did as cliffhanger then flipped the "switch"

I don't think they will do a resistance storyline (no doubt there is starfleet that didn't surrender) but they could. Dragging out the story for 40 minutes then at the end they magical jump back is very voyager
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Yes, the problem with reset buttons is that there's no drama, because nothing matters. At least in First Contact it was about preventing something from happening in the first place.
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Yes, the problem with reset buttons is that there's no drama, because nothing matters. At least in First Contact it was about preventing something from happening in the first place.
But a reset button where
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Yes, the problem with reset buttons is that there's no drama, because nothing matters. At least in First Contact it was about preventing something from happening in the first place.
Has it ever been mentioned in Star Trek lore that the Klingons took over the entire Federation in the past?

Is there a reason that they made it clear that Discovery overshot their return by 9 months?

It's all pointing to time travel.
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Has it ever been mentioned in Star Trek lore that the Klingons took over the entire Federation in the past?

Is there a reason that they made it clear that Discovery overshot their return by 9 months?

It's all pointing to time travel.
No mention of Romulans at all in this series; they certainly would not take kindly to a vast Klingon Empire. Perhaps a Romulan/Federation alliance? Or a trip further into the past that resets the Kilngons to look and act more like they do in TNG era.

Is the Mirror Universe from DS9 the same as the Mirror Universe from ENT, TOS and Discovery? How did humans end up as the slaves in DS9's version?
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At some point they're going to have to un-invent the spore drive. Perhaps if the whole time travel thing goes ahead they'll decide that messing with it was a bad idea and give up.
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Is the Mirror Universe from DS9 the same as the Mirror Universe from ENT, TOS and Discovery? How did humans end up as the slaves in DS9's version?
When Spock took control of the Terran Empire, he advocated for peace and disarmament. When that was done, other species were free to overthrow the Terrans. A Klingon-Cardassian Alliance lead the charge and once the fighting was over they enslaved humanity.
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Has it ever been mentioned in Star Trek lore that the Klingons took over the entire Federation in the past?

Is there a reason that they made it clear that Discovery overshot their return by 9 months?

It's all pointing to time travel.
There was no mention of the crappy Xindi war from enterprise

Also discovery may not be set in the TNG/ds9/voy universe?
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Judging by the trailer for the next episode - I’ll be as vague as possible.

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Please do not be another Holodeck simulation that Riker is running!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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