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Old 19-12-2011, 20:03   #101
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Yes just found it on imdb.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1527905/

Weirdly they have him down as Jonas in it, I thought Jonas was the geezer who had the affair with his wife?
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Old 19-12-2011, 21:28   #102
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When they make the Ed miliband movie he's nailed on for the lead role.
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Old 19-12-2011, 21:50   #103
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Didn't think much of the last episode - it didn't really do much with the tech conceit - certainly not going for the big gimmicks like Brainstorm and Strange Days. Bit thin. Second episode was deffo the best.
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Old 20-12-2011, 10:25   #104
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Jesus, dunno what you were all expecting from 3 x 50 minute programmes highlighting the potential dangers (and advantages) of modern technology and social media. Each episode IMO has put across what it was meant to do. I expect that the writers and producers probably had a lot more they wanted to do and put in, but we are talking about a 50 minute channel 4 slot on a Sunday night. For what each episode was, I enjoyed each of them.

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Did I miss something. The whole episode was about the memory grain device which they explained pretty well giving the time constraints? They can't have a 50 minute drama and spend 45 minutes giving tech fantasists a raging boner over how it works, how it is linked into the brain stem etc...... They need to explain what you need to know and get on with the story.

I think some people expected far far too much from these episodes and are slating them on that basis.
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Old 20-12-2011, 10:39   #105
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I expect to be entertained by TV shows. Episode 3 didn't do that. The future magic didn't stop it from being a dull drama about an affair.
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Old 20-12-2011, 11:08   #106
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I expect to be entertained by TV shows. Episode 3 didn't do that. The future magic didn't stop it from being a dull drama about an affair.
It wasn't about an affair. It was clearly about a man obsessing over his ability to look back on and closely scrutinize very single thing that happens in his life. Yes, it picked his wife's behaviour as an example which led onto him discovering an affair, but it wasn't IMO the main thing.

Then at the end, when he was replaying the videos of his wife, he realised that his wife did "Look at him in that way", which to me suggested that if we had this ability we would constantly replay and look for the bad things, rather than concentrate on all the good in our lives.
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Old 22-12-2011, 13:55   #107
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I kind of like episode 3, but it could have been so much better if the affair business remained completely ambiguous rather than validating his obsessive behaviour.
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Old 23-12-2011, 16:56   #108
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I would definitely redo Jonas' girlfriend a few times.
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Old 23-12-2011, 19:16   #109
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That's what he said.
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Old 23-12-2011, 20:30   #110
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Did I miss something. The whole episode was about the memory grain device which they explained pretty well giving the time constraints? They can't have a 50 minute drama and spend 45 minutes giving tech fantasists a raging boner over how it works, how it is linked into the brain stem etc...... They need to explain what you need to know and get on with the story.
I thought the first two episodes were pretty great - the third (not written by Brooker, natch) was humourless, histrionic and the "danger" of the device is something that people do anyway - replay stuff over and over in their minds. Even in the context of the episode the main character was saying he "knew" all of the things he was "verifying" with the redo anyway, so it was essentially pointless. When I say didn't make much of the tech conceit was the best they could come up with obsessing over the nuances of an infidelity? Who cares? He "knew" his wife had been unfaithful anyway, it was just catching her out on the minor details. OOH THE SHAPE OF THINGS TO COME!
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Old 24-12-2011, 10:21   #111
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Didn't like episode 3 at all, it made it's point within the first 20 minutes then just went on and on and on. Brooker should have done another.
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Old 24-12-2011, 16:11   #112
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Yeah, just caught up with the last two eps. Part two was genius - a real stab at the xbox/x-factor generation with a nice emotional hook. Part three was a tad weak - I agree, Brooker should have done another. Still liked it though and Toby Kebbell was very good.
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Old 25-12-2011, 12:38   #113
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I'v got a real fondness for the Irma Thomas song that was sung in part 2. Lovely song indeed with meaningful lyrics.
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Old 25-12-2011, 13:49   #114
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I'v got a real fondness for the Irma Thomas song that was sung in part 2. Lovely song indeed with meaningful lyrics.
Lovely, isn't it! I was immediately instructed to download it by the missus. Which I was going to anyway.
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Old 26-12-2011, 21:50   #115
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Thoguht again aprt 3 was well written (just watched it), and uncomfortable viewing, yes it was all aobut his obsessive personality, but also clearly showed how sometimes we're best not knowing/seeing. ANd yes he was a dick but it makes you ask how bad could you're jealousy be in the situation. I woudl like to think I would be calm and controlled, but relationships do evoke high emotion that can be in control of you as opposed to the other way around (that we all like to think it is).
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Old 28-12-2011, 01:32   #116
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Finally caught up with part 3. I really liked the premise and have always wanted to have an "experience-recording" device - very Ghost in the Shell-like. I'm someone who likes to archive everything (getting easier all the time as more things become digital). Very uncomfortable viewing as I also caught out an ex cheating on me and, as has been pointed out several times, we would all revert to torturing ourselves replaying these memories over and over. I'm sure everyone's got painful memories they'd like to 'Eternal Sunshine' out of their heads that heal with time, but a device like this would mess the healing process up.

I did think it might have worked better if it turned out he was just being paranoid and his wife hadn't had an affair as you could argue that the outcome was the right one. To me it would have been more powerful if he had driven his family away by his paranoia and jealousy alone.
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Old 29-12-2011, 13:30   #117
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Not seen part 3 yet, thought the first one was ok but I was annoyed at the fact that we do not negotiate with terrorists. 2nd one was less entertaining but certainly makes you think, especially with the advertising being thrown in your face but I would have expected the graphics to be a little bit better than the Wii. Stupid points really but then I am a bit of a muppet!!

Will give part 3 a try.
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Old 08-01-2012, 17:55   #118
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Watched the 3rd one last night and actually thought it was the best, or at least the most involving. So there.

Yeah, we replay stuff in our minds anyway (tho not with that sort of accuracy), but I liked the way it played on that.
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Bumping this as just watched the Christmas special and if you can watch it on demand whilst you can. Thought it was the best one so far and the story, acting and technology ideas were amazing. One of the most enjoyable shows I've seen this year
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It was great. A solid piece of work I thought. Altho I guessed the first twist.

Great acting from the two leads.I didnt realise that was boring Brummie Barrys son!
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