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Old 09-09-2009, 23:10   #81
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But no one has done it, until now.
I mean use camera tricks in general. Not in this specific deception.
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Old 09-09-2009, 23:11   #82
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Hold the phone! .... look at his little finger. Mirror!

edit: Scratch that it's the plastic tube

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Old 09-09-2009, 23:13   #83
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Old 09-09-2009, 23:14   #84
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heat sensative balls (like the no ink reciepts) and an invisible laser printing the numbers to them.

just an idea.
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Old 09-09-2009, 23:15   #85
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Regarding the split screen camera trickery theories - would Derren not disappear if he stepped into the left half of the screen if this was the case?

Or are we saying they 'layered on' a pre-recorded segment of the lefthand side of the screen on top of the live footage only whilst Derren wrote the numbers down and someone ran in and changed the balls?

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Old 09-09-2009, 23:15   #86
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If you look closely there is a speck of dirt above and to the left of his t.v. screen, which seems to disappear as the results are announced and then reappears again.
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Cant remember now, but were the balls in shot as the numbers were being drawn, and then as he wrote them on the board?

Definitely something to do with that board he wrote numbers on.
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I mean use camera tricks in general. Not in this specific deception.
Maybe, but that is one way it could be achieved.
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Regarding the split screen camera trickery theories - would Derren not disappear if he stepped into the left half of the screen if this was the case?
Yes if he decided to walk over to the left, which he didn't do until the balls had been switched.

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Or are we saying they 'layered on' a pre-recorded segment of the lefthand side of the screen on top of the live footage only whilst Derren wrote the numbers down and someone ran in and changed the balls?
Yes, that's what I'm saying.

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Maybe it was "real" magic!

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Old 09-09-2009, 23:25   #91
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A camera trick is the obvious answer to me. The balls are on a stand in a holder where it's easy to replace them in the same position, the camera wobbles to disguise things and it's done with no audience.
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Ooh, I guess the camera could also have been motioned controlled as well - so that the 'pre-recorded' footage of the lefthand side matched the wobbles of the live footage
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If you look closely there is a speck of dirt above and to the left of his t.v. screen, which seems to disappear as the results are announced and then reappears again.
Nope. That spec of dirt is there all the time, when the camera zooms out slightly it moves down as the lens shifts. I watched it with my eyes locked on the left of the screen. Couldn't see anything fishy. The camera movement is erratic and slightly artificial like it's post process... but that effect in motion or similar software is usually smoother. hmmmm, it's a thinker for sure.
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The slight camera motion looks like an effect of the "free standing" camera man (probably a more correct technical term ) - it's the camera being carried by the cameraman that followed him in as he walked across the room...
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Ooh, I guess the camera could also have been motioned controlled as well - so that the 'pre-recorded' footage of the lefthand side matched the wobbles of the live footage
Yeah, although they wouldn't be motion controlled. The camera would just be locked off completely still and video wobble effect is added with software.
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Did anyone bother to flick channels to check it?

As to how it was done.. why couldn't they turn the TV on till a certain time.... Note the wording, the BBC has the rights to first broadcast of the lottery numbers.
I did flick channels and it was pretty much dead on other than the gap between my Sky box changing channels
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there have been camera tricks in the adverts for "the events", which could be a clue?
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The way I would do it to have 6 really long pipes that come out of the far wall. The pipe would be perfectly hidden behind the balls and they would extend right up to the balls.. but what we see from the front aren't full balls. They are super thin half balls and as the correct ball is fired down the pipe it comes to a stop in the half ball. Then the pipes retract... robert's your father's brother.

... just throwing out ideas
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Ok here's another one. He keeps his hand over his mouth for the five numbers.His right hand is out of sight as well all the time. Microphone to a stooge rigging the balls ?

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