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Old 20-05-2013, 15:37   #1
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Question Jack Reacher Books...

So thought i'd give a Jack Reacher ago after enjoying the film...

What i actually enjoyed most about the film was the detecting, solving the mystery aspect of things over the action side. Are the novels more detecting than action as well, or is that how it was for One Shot?

So there doesn't seem to be any order between the books so started with 'The Visitor' and bought the iBooks version as had some vouchers to spend.

Anyway 6 chapters in and i'm really enjoying it, interesting story so far and Reacher as a character i find highly amusing at times.

Is this what most of the books are like, or is The Visitor actually fairly standard and there are better ones?

Could see myself reading them all if they are as enjoyable as this one has been so far, or any which are pretty terrible and should be avoided?

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Old 20-05-2013, 15:50   #2
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I've read them all but I gave up Echo Burning (book 5) as I found it quite hard to get into. Some of the later books, the ending wrapped up too quickly for me liking.

I'd say all the books involves Jack solving problems (and getting his rocks off). I enjoyed the flashback books where he was still an MP as they were different from his drifter type stories where he stumbles into trouble.
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Old 20-05-2013, 16:14   #3
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Id call the Visitor one of the poorer novels. Gone Tomorrow & Persuader are 2 of my favourites.
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why not start with the first one, the killing floor and go from there?
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Old 20-05-2013, 19:39   #5
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Here's the order of the books.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Reacher-Book...R3759JVHAG5Z0J
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Old 20-05-2013, 20:49   #6
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I've read the first two (Killing Floor and Die Trying) both were really hard to put down, I have three and four on my kindle to read.
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Old 20-05-2013, 21:22   #7
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Id call the Visitor one of the poorer novels. Gone Tomorrow & Persuader are 2 of my favourites.
Yeahj I've ground to a halt with Echo Burning after not really enjoying The Visitor at all, I didn't really enjoy these first 3 books tho and raced thru them, So I'll get to the end of this one eventually
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Old 20-05-2013, 23:08   #8
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Could see myself reading them all if they are as enjoyable as this one has been so far, or any which are pretty terrible and should be avoided?

They are all pretty formulaic, give or take the odd difference. The general gist of all of them are

1. Reacher arrives in a small town, usually by bus or hitching

2. He accidentally gets involved in an incident, which is linked to something big - a big conspiracy or some such.

3. Despite protesting he will inevitably get involved and try and sort it.

4. The big bad guy will send a gang of low level goons against reacher early doors that he will despatch easily.

5. Reacher will buy some low cost cheap disposable clothing.

6. A law-related good looking woman in her 30s-40s will be investigating and end up working with Reacher (and getting shagged by him).

7. All this will be tiring so he will rest, set an alarm clock he has built into his head then get up and put on his new cheap clothes.

8. Reacher will figure it all out quite early but leave the reader hanging for significant amount of chapters.

9. Reacher will solve the conspiracy by leaving everybody dead in a series of fisticuffs or shooting.

10. Reacher will get on the next bus and restart at step 1.

still... I cant wait to read the next.
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Old 21-05-2013, 00:12   #9
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Sounds like most of 80's US TV drama.

Just change Reacher for a fugitive/man with talking car/motorbike with TUURBBBO/Trucker with monkey sidekick etc.

I've only read the first one and thought it was OK, but if they're as formulaic as you say then I doubt I'll manage many more.
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Old 21-05-2013, 11:00   #10
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The Visitor is probably the worst of all the books so far. It's not a terrible read, but it just doesn't feel like a Jack Reacher novel.

It's like Lee Child wrote it before the Reacher series took off, & then later found it at the back of a drawer somewhere & just replaced the lead character with Reacher.


As for reading order of the books: as they were published. A few of them have details that pop up in later books. Certainly 61 Hours, Worth Dying For & A Wanted Man kinda make a trilogy.
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Old 22-05-2013, 15:00   #11
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Definitely read them in order - he does age and at one point

and the character kind of develops. Kind of.

I'm on number 12 and I've loved all but Echo Burning.
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Old 22-05-2013, 15:08   #12
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So is there a definitive order? Or this one on wiki will do? So i'm currently reading the 4th one..

Think i've figured out how its done by chapter 6, will be a little bit disappointed if i'm right, still enjoyed it so far though...
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1 Killing Floor
2 Die Trying Jul-98
3 Tripwire Jul-99
4 The Visitor(published asRunning Blind*in the*US) Apr-00
5 Echo Burning Apr-01
6 Without Fail Apr-02
7 Persuader Apr-03
8 The Enemy Apr-04
9 One Shot Apr-05
10 The Hard Way May-06
11 Bad Luck and Trouble Apr-07
12 Nothing to Lose Mar-08
13 Gone Tomorrow Apr-09
14 61 Hours Mar-10
15 Worth Dying For September 2010 (UK)[24]19 October 2010 (USA).[25]
16 The Affair 27-Sep-11
17 A Wanted Man 11-Sep-12
18 Never Go Back 29-Aug-13

That's the published order I'm using. Some of them jump back in time to when he was in the military.
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This person takes the order seriously...
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This person takes the order seriously...
& yet he's still left The Affair at the end of the list, despite it taking place back when Reacher was a military cop.
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Finished Killing Floor started Die Trying and listening to the audio book of 61 hours, which seems to be connected to the new one coming out.

Enjoyed Killing Floor but not as much as The Visitor, as liked the aspect of how it was all done.

Dunno if i'm keen on the bloke reading the audio book, when i read them Reacher doesn't come across as such an arrogant know it all, but when heard it read out he sounds a bit of a smug git.
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Currently reading Bad Luck & Trouble.

Very good so far.
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I read the Killing Floor and have the next couple stacked up on my Kindle.

I thought it was an ok read, doesn’t hang around and a nice distraction – but I have to say I was expecting a little something extra to elevate it above the generic trashy action novels, given how many copies he’s sold!

As such, I’m a little underwhelmed, and have a nagging feeling that I must have missed some clever nuance or something…

I have to say the most annoying thing about the first novel was the MASSIVE coincidence, that in any other story they would have to explain via some clever plot twist, but in this case it is left as purely a coincidence



I guess I’ll read the next book, but it’s more in hope that it improves rather than a love of the first.
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... listening to the audio book of 61 hours, which seems to be connected to the new one coming out.
Worth Dying For follows 61 Hours, and then A Wanted Man - Both have Reacher heading for Virginia to hook up with the MP he spoke to in 61 Hours. Never Go Back is the next one which has him arriving in Virginia. I expect things to go badly for him

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& yet he's still left The Affair at the end of the list, despite it taking place back when Reacher was a military cop.
If you read it in chronological order



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I read the Killing Floor and have the next couple stacked up on my Kindle.

I thought it was an ok read, doesn’t hang around and a nice distraction – but I have to say I was expecting a little something extra to elevate it above the generic trashy action novels, given how many copies he’s sold!

As such, I’m a little underwhelmed, and have a nagging feeling that I must have missed some clever nuance or something…
Probably not! The books aren't big on nuance!
They tend to be an easy read with a slight element of Sherlock mixed in with the violence.

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I have to say the most annoying thing about the first novel was the MASSIVE coincidence, that in any other story they would have to explain via some clever plot twist, but in this case it is left as purely a coincidence

It is sort of explained later. Sort of.

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