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Old 12-03-2009, 17:17   #61
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Apple Tablet Rumour updates including the book scanning rumour

BeBook 2

BeBook 2 looks more interesting since it has wireless connectiveity which I think is the only way downloading books on the fly is gonna work because there's no way amazon are gonna get a whisperwhatsit over here without charging some sort of monthly fee for the use of the service.
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Old 12-03-2009, 18:37   #62
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I can't imagine that a firm like Apple would do the work themselves, there are many specialist companies involved in digitising documents (lots of firms use them to digitise old company reports etc.) that would prove far more cost effective than having lots of software developers scanning in pages themselves.

Perhaps it was just a literary program for Apple staff?
Aye, scanning in books is very time consuming and requires a good editing team, it's much much cheaper to outsource it to a specialist company, or get electronic copies from the publishers.

IIRC most editing and printing has been done electronically for a long time, so it's extremely unlikely Apple are getting books to scan in themselves (especially when if the books are still in copyright and Apple wouldn't be able to reproduce them for resale anyway without agreement from the publisher/author).

It's more likely they might be either doing something with the staff (staff library or similar?), or possibly using them to test something like OCR which.
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Old 18-03-2009, 12:23   #63
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Can we get an oooo but OUCH on price

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/news...a-e-book.phtml
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Old 18-03-2009, 14:18   #64
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Can we get an oooo but OUCH on price

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/news...a-e-book.phtml
Wow, those are quite big - going to attract thieves instantly. I can usually fit a paperback novel into my coat pocket, but these look rather awkward.
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Old 18-03-2009, 14:19   #65
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Oooooooo.

But yeah. I'll wait for a price drop.

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Old 18-03-2009, 15:55   #66
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T3 did a better little article mentioning the price... but Kindle 3 in 2 years or less
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Old 30-03-2009, 11:57   #67
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Well I just bought an ereader... thanks to the google deal and being too impatient, can't believe I spent QUITE that much but oh well... here's hoping you can download some books from ereader.com cause I want Amber Bensons Deaths Daughter :P

Kindle is taking too long and already with the colour screens on the way, I think the sony ereader will do me until the colour screen versions come along at a more affordable price in a couple of years time... maybe four for the UK
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Old 30-03-2009, 12:28   #68
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What's the Google deal and how much was it?
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Old 30-03-2009, 13:02   #69
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Oh no... Amazon used to have the most amount of books availible but the Scanning project was in fact for the Sony Reader... google have added another 500,000 public domain and otherwise titles to the Sony Readers download library.

Huzzah!!!

Sony also have a newer slicker version of their reader out in the US with back light and touch screen for an extra $120 but the current one availible here does the same without those features plus you can buy covers which add a screen protector and light for £30 sooooo I know which I've gone for

I just don't get why there are different ereader libraries with DRM for each device, surely if ebooks are to survive we should be able to buy from a multitude of places...

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Old 30-03-2009, 16:36   #70
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Same reason there were different DRM's music formats - to keep profits high :/

IIRC the Sony models support both Sony's own DRM'd format and a more "open" one supported/provided by Adobe.

I love my ereader to bits (I'm on about my 10th book on it this year), but they can't really take off properly until the price drops, and you're not quite so stuck on the manufacturers parters for content (I've said it before, but the likes of Baen have the right idea, you buy the book from them and can get it in multiple ereader formats).
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Old 31-03-2009, 07:33   #71
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Ooooo Mr/Ms Wolf... got a question for you, could I buy something like Amber Benson Death's Daughter from ereader.com and get it to work on my Sony Reader?

I know WHsmith and Waterstones have a selection, might do some price checking even if it only saves a few quid here n there

Cancelled my original order and went with the Red version exclusive to John Lewis

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Old 31-03-2009, 14:06   #72
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Unfortunately I can't find for certain what format of ebook ereader.com uses, it doesn't look good though as it doesn't mention using the Sony readers (it mentions ipods/smartphones though.
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Unfortunately I can't find for certain what format of ebook ereader.com uses, it doesn't look good though as it doesn't mention using the Sony readers (it mentions ipods/smartphones though.
It's a while since i used it but it used the .pdb format. Doesn't look like it's supported on the Sonyt or the kindle


It was originally peanutpress.com (independent) and was then bought by palm. I used to read their files on a Compaq IPAQ quite a few years ago.

(Just logged in and my last purchase was the start of 2005. Suprisngly everything I purchased could be downloaded take that itunes.)

They had a novel solution to drm though. They put your credit card (and name) through a one way hash and included at along with the file. If you copied the file to a new device you had to enter your credit card details again).

if you lost the file and had a new credit card you could download any of the files again with the new card info so you could unlock it that way . It means you could store copy share as you wanted you just had to be willing to give your cc number to anybody you gave the book to.
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I got one of these on Friday and so far... am liking it.

Never been a fan of the standalone book readers simply because of the lack of content out there - Sony always had a poor range of titles, and I have no desire to use it exclusively for reading Project Gutenberg. Amazon's selection is fantastic, and its great that you can also read the first chapter or so for free before deciding to buy.

What makes it fantastic though, for me, is whispernet and what it enables. I can get newspapers dropped onto my device each morning, no effort. I can use services like Kindle Feeder and Instapaper to do the same with my daily dose of RSS feeds and web articles, all nicely consolidated for reading offline - its changing the way I read content for the better. On top of that, free, 3G internet everywhere makes it perfect for quick research or checking email.

Without whispernet, I just don't see a device taking off.

TTS is great too, but don't want to open that can of worms!

Yes... there are a few bad points, at times screen updates are a little slow which can be slightly annoying. My other major gripe is that PDF support sucks, which is a shame if you have a lot of (legit) e-books in PDF format. Otherwise - decent piece of kit.
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From what I've been reading is, they're trying to bring in an ebook standard now called ePUB (Forumites rejoice!!) and I've been told those are the best files to get for the Sony Reader.

Just couldn't wait for the kindle any longer, I had to help the economy with a purchase pluse over here the mobile companies are probably what's holding Amazon from releasing in the UK, they're probably making extosionate demands for the use of their networks.

Amazon might be safer adding wifi tech to the Kindle in the UK and having some kind of deals with retailers that have wifi hot spots or something... I dunno but I do like the idea of the whole download straight away while on the move...
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Yeah, the connectivity is what makes think device - just the fact it gets content delivered without me having to think about it. Saves so much time and actually encourages me to read.
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Old 02-04-2009, 08:30   #77
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Feliciaday was saying on Twitter yesterday that she preordered a book and she woke up to find it had downloaded to her kindle.

Sounds awesome but a pipe dream for the UK

But my reader arrived and unfortunately BT screwed up the reconnection of my line after the Bill Payer didn't pay, so they apparently had to CLOSE the account and open a new one which cancelled my ADSL which meant I couldn't download any books for my reader!! ARGH!!!

Anyways... luckily my sister was home with her 3 dongle and laptop so I used that to get a few books including Amber Bensons Death's Daughter from a US Site Huzzah.

It feels strange at first but I think most people will have trouble reading books without zooming in on the text as Twilight Book 2's text without zoom is teeny teeny teeny... but I'm reading a lot faster than I do with books.

Also bought the £40 cover with a light from Argos for £19.99 and it's awesome, was reading in the dark last night with no issues what so ever!
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Just couldn't wait for the kindle any longer, I had to help the economy with a purchase pluse over here the mobile companies are probably what's holding Amazon from releasing in the UK, they're probably making extosionate demands for the use of their networks.
Though they may have problems in the UK networks I think their vision is what may be causing the problem. I read something from one of the higher ups in Amazon (not Jeff Bezos) saying something like that they want to be able to have a UK user sitting on a beach in Spain order and download a book.

That really seems be naive around how they're approaching european carriers. If their trying to strike some lowcost european all you can eat contract they are going to be hitting their heads against the fat roaming charges that the neworks cherish.

What we actually need is just the ability to order a book and have it delivered in the UK. Prove the release and then you can influence the wider context

I also suspect that it may be down to the UK publishing industry. Like film it's an issue with many titles where you have different distribution deals between the UK and US and so they could be restricted on what the would be able to release. One of the advantages that the Kindle has in the US is the range of titles that are available. I suppose they only get one grand launch and so doing that makes sense.
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Sounds like the vision is the problem if Amazon struck a low cost deal for roaming and what not... there'd be groups on their cases asking why they can't do that for joe public

I do love my little ereader and I'll get over the non colour issue soon... They could however make the screens bigger as at the moment I'm zooming in on epubs to actually read the page, I could read without the zoom but my eyes would be straining after a while.

Interweb connection fee paid... reconnection in 7 days...

I want some richard laymon on my device but I can't find any lol Although I currently can't get into Sony's store so things may change

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Another interesting approach to the future of publishing and reading from Blackwells; a printing press on site that produces a hard copy of any book within minutes.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009...hine-blackwell

I quite like this idea. If it was widely available and at a low cost it provides a happy compromise between choice of titles, cost and ownership.
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