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Old 23-05-2017, 04:16   #1
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Getting a record player

My dad has 1000s of vinyl records and I'm wanting to add a player to my home cinema system.

I have no idea where to start but don't want to spend silly money. Hundred pound max but preferably less

Now know years ago you used to have to have special inputs etc on amps but is there anything that would work direct with my denon 2200

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Old 23-05-2017, 06:28   #2
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I don't think your amp has a phono input so you'd need to buy a phono stage/preamp if you wanted to add a turntable. Alternatively, you could buy a turntable with a built in phono stage.

£100 isn't going to get you a very good turntable though but have a look at the Richer Sounds website and there are some that might be okay such as the AUDIO TECHNICA
LP60USB for £99.

Project turntables are generally the best quality on a low budget but you'd probably be looking at more like £200 unless you can find a sale/ex-demo bargain.
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Old 23-05-2017, 10:32   #3
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Cheers for that.
How do they then connect to the amp once have the pre amp or inbuilt phono

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Old 23-05-2017, 11:28   #4
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Would connect to an aux input.
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Old 23-05-2017, 17:33   #5
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You may need something like this Project PHONO BOX MM | MM Phono Pre Amp | Richer Sounds

You need to check if the turntable is MM or MC then it's just the 2 phono cables from the turntable to this box, then 2 to the amp - may also need an earth cable.

There are versions of those 'pre-amps' that also have a usb out so you can copy to your laptop - not looked at those. There are lots of second hand ones about have a look on ebay / charity shops etc
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Old 23-05-2017, 18:56   #6
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Most likely a cheap turntable would be MM (moving magnet), more expensive turntables use the MC (moving coil) cartridges.

Stay away from Crossley and Ion makes, the best while cheapest new record player would be the Lenco L-85 Turntable with USB Direct Recording - Black and that has a phono pre-amp built in and a set of phono cables in the box as well.

Other than that, for a ton, you could look at Audio-Technica AT-LP60 USB Fully Automatic Belt-Drive Stereo Turntable. It's fully automatic (puts the needle on thr record and auto returns the arm at the end) also has a built in phono pre-amp as well as a USB output that allows direct connection to your computer (so you can record your records).
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Old 23-05-2017, 18:59   #7
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Cheers guys
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Old 24-05-2017, 17:26   #8
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Shame your budget cant stretch a bit as I'd have said two words.

Rega. Planar.
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Old 25-05-2017, 08:23   #9
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Depends how "hi fi" you are - I think I get as much enjoyment from my aging £50 Bush turntable as my brother does from his Linn Sondek.
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Good point. Years ago my budget would of been higher and my shopping list longer. The days of being able to afford : justify the purchase of expensive gear has passed. I have been lucky enough to have a state of the art system over the years. I still miss my denon a1d and my onkyo 905 remains in attic as nothing but a memory.

These days with family and mortgage I take what I can get. Hence the limited budget. But guess there is the second hand market
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Yeah, you can get a lot of enjoyment from a fifty quid Bush
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Shame your budget cant stretch a bit as I'd have said two words.

Rega. Planar.
What prices would I be looking at for that ?
Seems loads of turntables on eBay and thinking upping budget a bit get something with few more options
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Old 29-05-2017, 10:13   #13
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There are different models of Planar. The cheapest Planar 1 you are looking at £250+

Another turntable in the similar range is the Pro-ject Debut. I have the Debut III SE and sounds pretty good to me. You have to remember a decent setup also includes decent amp and speakers too.

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Buying second hand off ebay can get you a bargain, but also be fraught with repairs & refurbishment to whatever deck you buy.

Good basic new turntables, look at Rega Planar 1 or Pro-Ject Essential 3A or Debut S3. They will sound good out of the box

Cost really depends how much you are going to be using your record player.
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Given zer amster is plugging the record player into a home cinema amplifier I'm guessing the cabling isn't 79 wire stuff and the question might be what are the attached speakers before wading in to spend too much. Plus account for the extra cost of a phono stage .
Plus is the vinyl existing stuff or planning to buy new as if old then if its not all LPs at 33 1/3 then factor in that the turntables these days at higher prices don't have user friendly speed changing requiring that you flip the belt up and down or in one case remove the platter.
I'd consider the Audio Technica LP60 as it has a built in phono stage, isn't too expensive and is easy to use according to this. You can buy it locally and return it if there are issues unlike the lenco
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There have been reports that the LP60 actually damage the vinyl, although I'm not sure how much truth there is in that. The LP120 seems to get more respectable reviews as an entry level TT.
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I'd go with the Audio Technica LP120, as a minimum (though for £20 more you could get a Rega Planar 1).

Trouble is, it doesn't just stop with buying a record player. Then you'll start to upgrade bits and pieces and more records...
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Do the various decks mentioned come with an arm and cartridge?
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Thanks for this thread, very useful as its something I'm about to do as well. I've started to buy new releases from bands I really like on vinyl as they're often limited runs, but I don't actually have anything to play them on. Before the family came along I used to have a separates-based home cinema setup so I guess its back to those days again! At least its modular and you can upgrade individual bits as you go.
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I'd go with the Audio Technica LP120, as a minimum (though for £20 more you could get a Rega Planar 1).

Trouble is, it doesn't just stop with buying a record player. Then you'll start to upgrade bits and pieces and more records...
The rega planar lacks a built in phono stage so that's "for an additional £70 odd" if you go for the relatively cheap project phono box (going more expensive on the turntable and cheap as chips on a phono stage seems counter productive).
I'd stick with the lp60usb until upgrading the av reciever and buying one with a built in phono socket perhaps as at the moment buying extra bits would mean an entire amplifier and the speakers as well.
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