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Old 15-06-2010, 16:42   #1
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The OFFICIAL Vinyl Thread

Now by no means am I considered a music connoisseur but I have always thought that the sound that comes from Vinyl is infinitely better than from cassette or CD. So I want to start building up a bit of a collection. I intend to play the music so not looking to pay hundreds for a rare that will sit unplayed.

Does anyone here collect vinyl? Any gems out there? Any tips when finding vinyl?
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Old 15-06-2010, 16:55   #2
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I've still got a fairly big vinyl collection...about 300+ albums.

Used to LOVE the thrill of opening a double album
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Old 15-06-2010, 17:07   #3
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You just need to find a reliable outlet. The postage cost makes buying stuff online a bit more expensive so if you've got somewhere local with a decent selection, it's a cheap way of building a collection. We've got a 'smoking paraphenalia/mobile phone' shop with a small 2nd hand vinyl selection and I pop down once a month and usually come away with something, and it never costs me more that £3-4. So much classic material was bought in massive quantities, and despite the vinyl revival, most people have got rid of their turntables so the market for is pretty dead for everything for except the really rare stuff.

AC/DC, Springsteen, Queen, Dylan, etc. you can get all this stuff in decent condition for a few quid.

Car boots are still OK places to find stuff, as long as you don't go with a 'wants' list and just flick through what there is. Last one I went to I came away with a Primitives album that I'd been humming and ha-ing about on CD for a while. It was a little crackly but for that one play per year vibe it was fine.

I collect a few acts but I'm at the stage where all I'm looking for is test pressings, etc. and some stuff I've been looking for for 20+ years ...

Edit: the one thing to watch out for is charity shops that think just because it's vinyl, it's rare or collectable. Our local hospice shop prices pretty much everything at £4 and that includes scottish dance music, Max Bygraves, etc. and it really has NO value at all.

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Old 15-06-2010, 17:09   #4
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CD ruined vinyl for me. Just don't have the patience getting everything set up right - making sure there is no dust etc etc.

How dunkrag gets on with the latest 'Broken Social Scene' LP I'll never know. Comes on multi-discs with one song 'per side'. Hell no!
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Old 15-06-2010, 17:20   #5
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I'd say that charity shops are the way to go. There are about 15 in my local high street and for the most part it's going at bargain basement prices.

IME specialist shops tend to overvalue everything, so unless you come across something you're desperate for it's best not buying from them.
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Old 15-06-2010, 17:21   #6
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that's a collectors piece Lou! You can get it on standard double vinyl if you'd rather.

I still a bit of a vinyl junkie.
I'll post more thoughts later but first bit of advice is prepare to be perminately skint.

I'm no vinyl snob-I love my iPod. I have a daily 3 hour commute and sit with my earbuds in for most of that time everyday. For me it's more about how you listen to music. For the above purpose, and cateloguing digital and mp3 are a god send. But on a weekend I like sitting down with a pot of coffee, opening up a big gatefold album cover, sliding the vinyl out and cranking the sound up. Then pawing over the covers, artwork, lyrics etc. I listen to an album much more that way. It's disposable on the train/iPod.

It does sound better to me though.
Will post more later.
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Old 15-06-2010, 17:53   #7
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I would buy more vinyl if you got the CD with it thrown in. No reason why not, with the cost of sets like yours dunkrag.
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Old 15-06-2010, 20:58   #8
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It turns music into very much more of a hobby when you listen on vinyl.
I'd agree with Lou, that a CD or download code at the least gives a much bigger incentive to pick the vinyl up in the first place. Thankfully this is becoming more and more common. I'd say around 50%, if not more, of the new releases I buy include either a CD or code for the mp3s.

I'm listening to the new Chemical Brothers now on vinyl (download code included) and it sounds amazing! I had the download version on my iPod on the way home and it just doesn't compare. Much richer and warmer soundstage, it just feels more open.

Of course an additional problem with vinyl is that unlike CDs where you are only dependant on a good quality mastering to get a good sound, with vinyl you are also dependant on a good quality pressing. So this new Chemical Brothers album is obviously both - the Foo Fighters greatest hits set is not so good, muddy and dull reproduction. LCD Soundsystem's latest - amazing. Radiohead's OK Computer Parlaphone issue-bad (although the Captiol US release last year is much better, and worth picking up). It's just much more 'work' to hunt out the music you want, but when you hit a sweet sounding disc, it's all worth it.

In terms of what is good to pick up, I guess that entirely depends on what you are into.

Keep in eye out for stuff mastered by Kevin Gray, Steve Hoffman, Bernie Grundman.

For 'Rock'- Led Zeppelin's Mothership is pretty good. Also the Death Magnetic 5 disc 45rpm set by Metallica sounds miles better than the compressed and brick walled mess of the CD (although still not as good as it should).

For 'Jazz'- sample one of the marvellous Blue Note music matters 45rpm sets- pricey at close to £50 a set by the time you have imported, but will give you a stunning example of how much better vinyl can sound, especially with music that was recorded nearly 70 years ago in some cases.

Pop/dance- as mentioned, try the new LCD Soundsystem or Chemical Brothers. In fact the last LCD vinyl release was pretty near perfect too. Bjork's Direct Metal Masters series from a couple of years ago is fabulous, if you can find any left. GaGa's The Fame rocks too.

Indie/alt- Sonic Youth's The Eternal is pretty good. As is the In Rainbows 45rpm set if you can find one. Portishead's Third sounds great too. Also, Nirvana's back catalogue came out earlier this year with a new mastering by Bernie Grundman-awesome.

Beats- I'm a big fan of last years Paul's Boutique re-issue from Beastie Boys. Massive Attacks latest is also a great pressing-comes with CD too.

That's just a tip of one iceberg. Of course none of the above makes any difference if your equipment isn't up to it, but that is another post.
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The last Hoffman-mastered White Stripes vinyl, was like a different album to the CD. Very odd.
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Old 16-06-2010, 11:05   #10
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I go through phases of buying vinyl - I tend to pick up vinyl releases by my favourite bands, and as others have mentioned it's nice if an MP3 code is included - it saves buying the CD, and ripping vinyl to my laptop can be a bit of a chore.

Most recent purchase (arrived from the US this week in the best packaging material I've ever seen for a company sending out a record): Misfits' Land of the Dead in a lovely green vinyl edition (ltd to 1000). Mmmmm...

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Old 16-06-2010, 14:05   #11
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The day I knew vinyl was 'dead' was whenever the Judgment Night soundtrack came out. 199x. It was so thin, I knew then the labels didn't give a **** and just wanted rid of the format.

'Course it's not turned out like that but pretty much all the vinyl I buy these days is 2nd hand.
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Old 16-06-2010, 14:08   #12
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They are just too expensive for me now (new releases I mean). I ordered the Sleigh Bells CD for 8 quid the other day and noticed the vinyl was like 25!
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Old 16-06-2010, 14:35   #13
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I still love vinyl, but have noticed that a lot of the charity shops have even stopped doing it now. I'm lucky in that I live by a nice musi- only Oxfam that has a large vinyl section and most of it is decent and decently priced. New albums tend to be around £8-10.

CD/MP3 have their place, but I find thats more a sampler and for portable use. For sitting back with pipe/tea and slippers, you can't beat a good proper 12".

My only tip is not to be fussy. I bought a Pistols album for a £1 cos it had no cover and it turned out to be one of the original Spunk albums. Not only that, it had a load of original press clippings from the 70's inside, relating to the release and the whole punk scene, most of which I'd never seen before. It was *awesome*

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Old 16-06-2010, 16:18   #14
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I haven't stopped collecting vinyl since I was 14. I rather buy a vinyl than the CD version even if the vinyl is more. The last one was the Northern Lights White Stripes one.

I am quite a fan of coloured vinyl and they do not sound different to black vinyl. Only the colour is different. I have yellow, green, translucent, red and blue.



I also like picture discs.

http://www.apah20.dsl.pipex.com/pf/pf.htm

My biggest collections from artists such as Pink Floyd, Yello (biggest at nearly 100 as it includes 12" singles and albums), Kraftwerk and White Stripes (7" singles and albums).

The good stuff from Charity shops are long gone as they end up on ebay now instead. As vinyl got a boost so did the 50p and £1 records. They are now 3 or 4 times more now.

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Old 18-06-2010, 11:54   #15
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Today's score: a nice original pressing of Kimono My House complete with inner sleeve for £1.99 from Oxfam - which is usually pretty grim. Sitting next to a copy of Derek/Dominoes for £2.49 (which had half the sleeve torn away) and Zooropa for £20. Now, the latter was from the whole 'death of vinyl' years so I don't imagine it sold many in that format, but that's still a tenner too expensive IMO.
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Old 22-06-2010, 07:54   #16
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Got to say love vinyl and it really helped me get back into music after a 6 or 7 year absence. I used to have 200+ records in my teenage years but starting selling them when I was a student (i don't really regret selling any apart from all the early sigur ros EPs and LPs which I think I sold to sigur on here! ).

With the introduction of mp3 codes and CDs it seems a no brainer to buy a new lp at £11-13 over the cd/download. As someone said above, it's lovely just sitting down and listening to music (rather than doing anything else) and vinyl has really helped me start doing that again. Now to save for a new turntable, the one I'm using is an old bush all in one jobbie (sdp 31 I think) from the 60s that I've had for ages although I just got all the valves and capacitors changed so it sounds better than it ever has!

Ps in Denmark at the moment and they still love vinyl here although it's a bit pricey for the new
stuff. Have picked up a few bits n bobs for cheaper than home including sigur ros' takk for a
tenner brand new and GYBE!'s f#a#inf for a fiver!

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I collect the odd bit here and there. Never really been tempted to sell any of it or pass it on. Got a decent selection of early Sigur Rós stuff including a few copies of Svefn g englar and one or two signed things. Also have a some GYBE! stuff and random stuff such as Lemon Jelly, Twilight Sad etc.
Most of it is stored in a record bag but in my old place we had some of them framed on the wall. Only got two framed now, Jeff Buckley-Grace (daughter is named after the album) and Agaetis Byrjun. They are both on a wall upstairs.
Only vinyl I have sold was two White Stripes singles. I like them but felt someone else would appreciate them more than me. Bought one from after seeing them at the Liquid Rooms a few years back and got them to sign it. Got £200 for it a few years later and £70 for a Jolene 7" that I bought for a £1.

I was at the Slint ATP in 2005 and ended up meeting the guys from Jullander. I really liked their record John Symmes Welt and they were a bit taken aback that someone wanted them to sign it as they were selling them outside the pub.

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Got to say love vinyl and it really helped me get back into music after a 6 or 7 year absence. I used to have 200+ records in my teenage years but starting selling them when I was a student (i don't really regret selling any apart from all the early sigur ros EPs and LPs which I think I sold to sigur on here! ).

I think I bought Ny Batteri from you. Still have it and is one of my most treasured records in my small vinyl collection.
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Great to know you still have it sigur, really glad they went to a proper fan . Thought I had sold Svefn g engler and agaetis byrjun to you too but must have sold them elsewhere!
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Great to know you still have it sigur, really glad they went to a proper fan . Thought I had sold Svefn g engler and agaetis byrjun to you too but must have sold them elsewhere!

Come to think of it, maybe you did

All still pride of place in the collection mate
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I've been checking out the bay recently for a Project Debut - don't want to spend much more than £150 (including if possible the phono stage and speed-change box)

Want to play all my old vinyl and probably pick up some new stuff (Joanna Newsom, Bjork, etc)
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