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Old 13-05-2007, 12:35   #101
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What about the numbers!!
And everyone (well the main characters and indepth flashbacks) whos crash landed on this island seems to have had a bad father/childhood.
Jack - Check (though his father did provide for him)
Kate - Check (stepfather though, and not in childhood)
Sawyer - Check (but his father wasn't necessarily a bad man)
Locke - Check (but his father wasn't around when he was a kid)
Sun - Check (same situation as Jack really)
Jin - Check (though his father looked like he was fantastic with him)
Hurley - Check (wasn't around, but seemed genuinely nice when he came back)
Sayid - Nothing confirmed
Charlie - Nothing confirmed
Claire - Nothing confirmed
Rose - Nothing confirmed
Bernard - Nothing confirmed
Michael - Nothing confirmed
Walt - He seemed to have an ok childhood, and Michael really cared about him

They're all the ones I can think of offhand. The bigger questions for me are:

1. The numbers (I think this is a massive red herring that will be put down to coincidence: Inputting numbers was a Dharma test - the numbers are broadcast every so often to inform Dharma personnel on the outside that the button is still being pushed, and thats where Hurley's mate got the numbers from etc).

2. Murderers. How many of the people on this island killed people before they came? Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Sayid, Hurley, Anna Lucia, Paulo and Nicky, Jin (possibly) and then Michael and Charlie when they got to the island. Being a murderer is far less likely than having daddy issues. I don't think this will be explained at all.

As long as they don't cop out with the "they're all dead and in purgatory" answer or the "it was all a dream" answer I'll be able to accept whatever explanations they give. There were unanswered questions at the end of 'Twin Peaks' but I loved that show too.

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Old 13-05-2007, 12:44   #102
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But the bloke who recruited Uncle Rico into Darma hadn't aged either had he? So why did Ben & Rico while he hadn't?
Rico? Who's he? If you mean Roger, then I'm not sure the guy who recruited them hadn't aged (maybe he was just using Grecian 2000).

Alternatively, some people who come to the island do seem to have some sort of communion with it. Maybe he was one of them (hence being in charge even though he was young) but he didn't embrace the natives in the way Ben and Locke have.
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Old 13-05-2007, 13:41   #103
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Murderers. How many of the people on this island killed people before they came? Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Sayid, Hurley, Anna Lucia, Paulo and Nicky, Jin (possibly) ... Being a murderer is far less likely than having daddy issues. I don't think this will be explained at all.
Jack and Hurley didn't kill anyone prior to the Island. Hurley blamed himself for an accident he wasn't responsible for. Jack's a doctor, there is a huge difference between murder and having a patient die in spite of all your best efforts to save them.
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Old 13-05-2007, 14:02   #104
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Walt - He seemed to have an ok childhood, and Michael really cared about him
But he didn't know his father growing up, and his step-father kinda abandoned him...

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Old 13-05-2007, 14:24   #105
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Claire - Nothing confirmed
Claire's dad is Jack's dad....
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Old 13-05-2007, 15:14   #106
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The bigger questions for me are:
1. The numbers (I think this is a massive red herring that will be put down to coincidence: Inputting numbers was a Dharma test - the numbers are broadcast every so often to inform Dharma personnel on the outside that the button is still being pushed, and thats where Hurley's mate got the numbers from etc).
Weren't the numbers explained in the 'Lost Experience' as the Valenzetti Equation?
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Old 13-05-2007, 16:27   #107
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I can't wait to find out more about Ezra James Sharkington.
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Old 13-05-2007, 16:48   #108
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Jack and Hurley didn't kill anyone prior to the Island. Hurley blamed himself for an accident he wasn't responsible for. Jack's a doctor, there is a huge difference between murder and having a patient die in spite of all your best efforts to save them.
I kind of got the impression from the way it was shot that Jack made an incorrect medical decision in treating his wife to be instead of the driver of the other car (was it Shannon's dad?), effectively signing his death warrant. He also allowed his father to do surgery on someone even though he knew he was under the influence.

Similar to Hurley, I was making a bit of a stretch with Jack. I suppose it would have been more accurate to say "responsible for peoples deaths."

I didn't do the Lost experience so I don't know if the numbers have already been explained to an extent.

Forgot about Claire's dad being Jack's. I suppose that puts her in the neither good nor bad father category, since he simply wasn't around.
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Rico? Who's he? If you mean Roger, . . .
Yeah, he played Uncle Rico in Napoleon Dynamite

But I'm pretty sure Ben when went up to the recruitment guy post-purge and closed his eyes, he was still pretty sprightly looking.
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Yeah, he played Uncle Rico in Napoleon Dynamite

But I'm pretty sure Ben when went up to the recruitment guy post-purge and closed his eyes, he was still pretty sprightly looking.
That completely passed me by! And I usually notice stuff like that! Maybe it was the lack of moustache that had me confused
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Now that did make me laugh. It was a good podcast this week.
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Weren't the numbers explained in the 'Lost Experience' as the Valenzetti Equation?
yep - i thought so too
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Personally I think the fatherhood thing is more being ashamed of them. From what I can recall-

Jack was ashamed of his dad for the whole drunken surgeon,
Claire was ashamed of him for leaving her i guess,
Hurley for being abandoned by his dad
Sawyer was probably ashamed of his dad for killing himself and Sawyer's mum
Locke obviously ashamed of his dad for the kidney thing and the big push
Sun for what he made Jin do
Jin was ashamed for being the son of a fisherman so he is ashamed, and that's assuming that he was Jin's dad which we aren't sure of with his mum sleeping around.

The others aren't really known but Walt was abandoned by his dad when Michael signed away his custodial rights perhaps and to be fair Walt didn't get on with Michael for quite a bit of the series.

Kate, on the other hand did hate her father because it was her biological father that she actually killed (although she didn't know it at the time) if I remember correctly.

That's my take on it anyway
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DHARMA's diminishing importance in events is kind of sad - it was much more intriguing when the island's various strange phenomena seemed to be the fall-out from a failed 1970s scientific project, rather than the mystical exploits of some magical ancient race.

Hope they still have SOME part to play further down the line...
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Jacob looks like Kris Kristofferson

And Brian Kilcline.
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I thought Jacob's voice sounded like Clancy Brown (who played Kelvin from the hatch).
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Well that was alot ot take in

Guess Ill be in bed awake for a bit tonight


Anyone got a link to next weeks trailer?
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DHARMA's diminishing importance in events is kind of sad - it was much more intriguing when the island's various strange phenomena seemed to be the fall-out from a failed 1970s scientific project, rather than the mystical exploits of some magical ancient race.

Hope they still have SOME part to play further down the line...

Surely DHARMA is still about in some form, or what is the explanation of how the Losties getting all the DHARMA branded grub?





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They need another Ben flashback, maybe start of next season. There's still a ton of stuff they need to explain about Dharma. And what happened to Annie? That's going to be a huge part of Ben's story. And maybe they'll show us more about why Dharma built the stations and the button.

Next week is Charlie's flashback. It's been good while it lasted, but he's toast.
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Anyone got a link to next weeks trailer?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4asWeBOl_Ds
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