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Old 07-01-2005, 10:35   #1
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HD-DVD / Blu-ray - what's coming your way...

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Warner/New Line/HBO/etc. just announced 52 HD-DVD titles for release Q4 '05:

http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/2005/Jan/1106003.htm

ABOVE THE LAW
ALEXANDER
ANGELS IN AMERICA (HBO)
AUSTIN POWERS: INTERNATIONAL MAN OF MYSTERY (NEW LINE)
BATMAN BEGINS
BLADE (NEW LINE)
CATWOMAN
CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY
CONSTANTINE
CONTACT
DARK CITY (NEW LINE)
THE DUKES OF HAZZARD
ERASER
EXECUTIVE DECISION
FINAL DESTINATION (NEW LINE)
FRIDAY (NEW LINE)
FROM THE EARTH TO THE MOON (HBO)
THE FUGITIVE
GOTHIKA
HARD TO KILL
HARRY POTTER AND THE SORCERER'S STONE
HARRY POTTER AND THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS
HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN
HOUSE OF WAX (2005)
THE LAST SAMURAI
THE MASK (NEW LINE)
THE MATRIX
THE MATRIX RELOADED
THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS
MAVERICK
MILLION DOLLAR BABY
THE MUSIC MAN
MYSTIC RIVER
NEXT OF KIN
NORTH BY NORTHWEST
OCEAN'S ELEVEN
OCEAN'S TWELVE
PASSENGER 57
THE PERFECT STORM
THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA (2004)
THE PLAYER (NEW LINE)
THE POLAR EXPRESS
RED PLANET
RUSH HOUR (NEW LINE)
SE7EN (NEW LINE)
SOLDIER
THE SOPRANOS (HBO)
SPAWN (NEW LINE)
SWORDFISH
TROY
UNDER SIEGE
U.S. MARSHALS
WILD WILD WEST

Paramount just announced 21 HD-DVD titles for Q4 '05:

http://www.mysan.de/international/article21498.html

THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE
SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS
ELIZABETHTOWN
COACH CARTER
ITALIAN JOB
SCHOOL OF ROCK
SKY CAPTAIN AND THE WORLD OF TOMORROW
FORREST GUMP
BRAVEHEART
GHOST
GREASE
MISSION IMPOSSIBLE 2
BLACK RAIN
SAVE THE LAST DANCE
SLEEPY HOLLOW
U2 RATTLE & HUM
VANILLA SKY
LARA CROFT: TOMB RAIDER
STAR TREK: FIRST CONTACT
WE WERE SOLDIERS

Universal just announced 16 HD-DVD titles, likely for Q1 '06:

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/s...02774126&EDATE=

THE BOURNE SUPREMACY
THE CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK
VAN HELSING
APOLLO 13
U-571
12 MONKEYS
DUNE
THE THING
END OF DAYS
BACKDRAFT
WATERWORLD
THE BONE COLLECTOR
SPY GAME
PITCH BLACK
CONAN THE BARBARIAN
DANTE'S PEAK
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Old 07-01-2005, 10:43   #2
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HD-DVD is going to win isn't it.
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I'm quite ******** off about this whole HD-DVD thing...having already shelled out a load to convert my best titles to DVD from VHS, I am now expected to do the same again to HD-DVD, then probably again in 2-3 years for the next format. Complete con.

I take it the HD-DVD discs need to be played on a HD-DVD player, which will end up costing around 700/800 £, and which will need to be played on a HD TV which will end up costing 2k and isnt even readily available in the UK as we stand. Complete Con.

will our existing DVD's be compliant with the new HD-DVD players? or will we now need two machines.

We are suckers arent we
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It's like 1997 all over again!!!

webslinger - I don't think HD-DVD is going to be compulsory you know!

I got into DVD fairly early on and have invested too much money in it to upgrade straight away - I think this time around I'll sit back until the market has established itself and prices have fallen... and then I think I will only upgrade titles that I really need.

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HD-DVD is going to win isn't it.
No. My monkey* is on Blu-ray

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4153813.stm



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I can see myself starting to buy some of these before I've even got something to play them on.

If blu-Ray doesn't release any titles to match these in the next year they'll be sunk.

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It's like 1997 all over again!!!
I was thinking that; in 1997 I thought 'I'll give it a couple of years before I dive in' (I think it was about eight months). Right now I'm thinking that I'm perfectly happy with my 32" widescreen TV, and HD-DVD isn't going to make a scrap of difference on a screen that size...
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There is a dual-format disk available with both HD and normal versions on the same thing so if releases use that then upgrading would a bit more gradual than having to junk existing kit. If 'they' were truly savvy all future DVD releases would be dual-format...

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will our existing DVD's be compliant with the new HD-DVD players? or will we now need two machines.


No, existing DVDs will play on all of the next generation players. For a good many years I'd guess.
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Personally I don't see either of the new formats being a huge success outside of the home theatre enthusiast market. By the time Joe Public feels he needs to replace his DVD player there will probably be another format above and beyond Blu-Ray/HD-DVD.
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Oh God... it will be "When is Star Wars coming out on HD-DVD?" time again won't it!
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DVD/HD-DVD could become analagous to the VHS/LD markets... I can't see people upgrading from their perfectly adequate dvds anytime soon. And considering how pathetically HDTV has been pushed in this country...
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Personally I don't see either of the new formats being a huge success outside of the home theatre enthusiast market. By the time Joe Public feels he needs to replace his DVD player there will probably be another format above and beyond Blu-Ray/HD-DVD.
I dunno, it doesn't get much better than HD quality. This really is the step we should have taken back in '97. But there was this iterim period of DVD on Standard def. Hi-Def, when it does take off I see being the TV standard for at least 20 years.
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DVD/HD-DVD could become analagous to the VHS/LD markets... I can't see people upgrading from their perfectly adequate dvds anytime soon. And considering how pathetically HDTV has been pushed in this country...

This is likely to all change in a years time when SKY take it up.
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But then you've got to explain to Joe Punter why there was an 'interim' format (when it certainly wasn't marketed as such) and why he/she/it has to shell out for very expensive equipment indeed after buying God knows how many dvds...

No one was ever convinced by laserdisc in big numbers. And the advantages were plain to see (albeit with irksome idiosyncracies).

You're right, though. HD should have been pushed years ago (a la Japan) instead of pussyfooting around.
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No one was ever convinced by laserdisc in big numbers. And the advantages were plain to see (albeit with irksome idiosyncracies).
Agreed and I would argue that the obvious advantages when comparing a laserdisc to VHS were more marketable to the average consumer than the differences between DVD and HI-DEF/Blu-Ray. You start talking about resolutions...etc to the man on the street and their eyes are going to glaze over. Hell, there's still a huge segment of the market that won't buy widescreen because they think it cuts off the top of people's heads.

No doubt a higher definition format will become the common standard eventually but I don't think for one moment that it's going to happen in the quick sudden wave that a lot of people have convinced themselves it will, in fact I think it will take years. And there's always another format on the horizon.

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at least bluray will be backwards compatible with dvd and the ps3 will have bluray playback so its all good
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But then you've got to explain to Joe Punter why there was an 'interim' format (when it certainly wasn't marketed as such) and why he/she/it has to shell out for very expensive equipment indeed after buying God knows how many dvds...

No one was ever convinced by laserdisc in big numbers. And the advantages were plain to see (albeit with irksome idiosyncracies).

You're right, though. HD should have been pushed years ago (a la Japan) instead of pussyfooting around.
Laserdisc was barely around for three years in the UK when DVD came on the scene though, and virtually no video shops stocked laserdisc, and if they did it was only 20-30 titles. It certainly wasn't pushed or promoted like DVD was.

The only way I see HD taking off is when it becomes cheap, and that is when standard DVD took off anyway. When it's cheap people will take the plunge, and they can still play their current DVDs on it, and slowly buy new ones on the new format. A lot of people will get PS3s too, which is blu-ray.

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And there's always another format on the horizon.
In media perhaps, but as a TV format HD will be the next thing for many years to come. TV formats don't usually change very often. We had SDTV for 40 years remember. HDTV has been at least a decade in the coming, and it's not going to vanish quickly once it arrives.

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I'm quite ******** off about this whole HD-DVD thing...having already shelled out a load to convert my best titles to DVD from VHS, I am now expected to do the same again to HD-DVD, then probably again in 2-3 years for the next format. Complete con.

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will our existing DVD's be compliant with the new HD-DVD players? or will we now need two machines.

We are suckers arent we
Nobody says we have to buy it...

As far as I'm aware, the 1st generation discs will be movie-only discs so I think it's still worth holding out to everything calms down a bit.

I think you need at least a 42" display to be able to appreciate the increased resolution.

DVD will be around for at least another 5, maybe 10 years - studios are still releasing VHS for heaven's sake!!
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Laserdisc was barely around for three years in the UK when DVD came on the scene though...
If by "three" you mean more like "ten to twelve" then fine.

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