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Old 30-10-2011, 19:54   #81
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Got about 300 pages into this and really struggling with it. Probably not helped by doing 1 - 4 back to back in preparation for this. The guy really, really needs to learn how to edit his work down! But there are so many little characters to keep track of , if i put it down to read another book i'll have forgotten all about them by the time i pick it up again.

Danaerys and Bran i just wish they die pretty fast, couldnt care less about either of their storys at the moment. How many pages of Danaerys going through the daily citizen q & a sessions do we need! its tedious as hell for her so guess how the reader feels about it! She should have a really interesting story arc but its like trying to walk through treacle.

I really want to get back to Cersei and Jamie, hopefully we hear a little about them later in the book as things happening in the background.

Would of been nice to see some spoiler tags in here for some of these later posts.

Its certainly not a series i'll ever go back to, i just feel duty bound to finnish it off now. More of a chore than a pleasure at the moment. I look forward to picking up some authors who can manage a whole story in a single book again
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Old 30-10-2011, 21:07   #82
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I look forward to picking up some authors who can manage a whole story in a single book again
I don't think ANY of them can do it anymore
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Old 06-11-2011, 15:24   #83
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Would have been nice to see some spoiler tags in here for some of these later posts.
I think it's assumed, as with movie threads, that after the initial release everyone reading will have read the book already, sorry.

I think the first half, the bit that runs parallel with A Feast for Crows was markedly slower than the second half.
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Finished A Dance With Dragons on Monday evenings after reading all five books in the last six months since the tv show. I'm suffering A Song Of Ice And Fire withdrawal symptoms now . Although I agree that books 4 and 5 don't live up to the dizzying heights of the first three books, they make much more sense if you read the whole saga in one go. I get the sense that they are the lull before the storm.
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Old 02-12-2011, 12:45   #85
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Finished A Dance With Dragons on Monday evenings after reading all five books in the last six months since the tv show. I'm suffering A Song Of Ice And Fire withdrawal symptoms now . Although I agree that books 4 and 5 don't live up to the dizzying heights of the first three books, they make much more sense if you read the whole saga in one go. I get the sense that they are the lull before the storm.
Same. I'd agree also that the first three books are dizzyingly good - absolute page-turners of the highest order that wouldn't let me pause for breath before plunging into the next volume.

I kinda like the latter two for their more leisurely pace and the opportunity they gave to really get under the skins of their characters. I guess fantasy literaure doesn't lend itself well to the dithering Daenarys does in ADWD, but it all makes sense in the end. The chapter with Cersei was powerful stuff and the end a clarion call for wanting more.

I loved reading the books over a short period but am now sad that I, like those of you who've been following these books for years, might have to wait aeons for the sixth instalment
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I'd avoided everything A Song Of Ice And Fire online whilst I've been reading the books so I didn't spoil myself. Now I've finished I'm reading everything that I can, specifically at towerofthehand.com and westeros.org.
I've come across stuff that I didn't even think of whilst I was reading the books and a couple of theories of my own seem to be shared by most fans.

(I won't spoiler these as they aren't actual spoilers, just fan theories)
Jon Snow is the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark. I've thought this for a while, but ADWD almost confirms it in my mind. With Barristan Selmy's remembrance of his love for Ashara Dayne and that her child was stillborn, it pretty much excludes her from being Jon's mother. It was satisfying to read that this theory is widely held amongst fans.

Alleras (The Sphinx) is Sarella Sand. This one surprised me when I read it, as I just didn't pick up on it when I was reading A Feast For Crows. Could the, supposedly male, novice maester really be one of the Sand Snakes? Oberyn 'Red Viper' Martell's illegitimate daughters. If it is true then it looks like there could be a major plot strand to come in the next book involving The Citadel at Oldtown.

It just goes to show that the whole book series is one big puzzle waiting to be worked out.

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Going through the chapter summaries at that site with the footnotes is a revelation in terms of things I'd missed!
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Going through the chapter summaries at that site with the footnotes is a revelation in terms of things I'd missed!
Exactly what I thought!
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Thirded. I read the chapter summaries as a refresher before reading ADWD and was amazed both by how much I had missed and how much I had plain forgotten.
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Finished this last night. Mostly enjoyed it, but found it really frustrating too - both due to the pace and the fact that it's all build up with no real climax.

Really didn't like the stuff on Essos - just felt like not a lot happened to justify so much of the book being dedicated to Dany and Tyrion. I liked the Selmy chapters though and where Quentyn Martell's story went.

The stuff on Westeros was all good, it's just a shame that so many POVs - Jaime, Bran, Davos - are all just teases at what's to come in the next book.

Loved the epilogue. Can't wait to see the mess that comes out of that.


So yeah, good book, but not really very satisfying. I probably liked it the least of the books so far (AFfC at least built into a nice climax with everything falling apart in Kings Landing). Still eagerly anticipating the next volume, whenever that is...
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Old 05-01-2012, 19:15   #92
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There's a chapter from The Winds of Winter available on George Martin's website: http://georgerrmartin.com/if-sample.html . I really hope he'll finish this book quicker than he did ADWD.
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Just seen on Play.com that the paperback of A Dance with Dragons comes out in March, which is good as I've been holding off reading book 4 until I get book 5 in paperback BUT they're pulling a Storm of Swords and splitting it.

Part 1: Dreams and Dust, Part 2: After the Feast

I don't mind so much as it breaks it up a bit and doesn't actually end up costing more (fiver plus change each as opposed to 12-16 quid for hardback) but it does add more books to my shelf, lol.
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Just seen on Play.com that the paperback of A Dance with Dragons comes out in March, which is good as I've been holding off reading book 4 until I get book 5 in paperback BUT they're pulling a Storm of Swords and splitting it.

Part 1: Dreams and Dust, Part 2: After the Feast

I don't mind so much as it breaks it up a bit and doesn't actually end up costing more (fiver plus change each as opposed to 12-16 quid for hardback) but it does add more books to my shelf, lol.
Just saw that myself... have to say, it is a bit of a swiz doing that, paying for 2 books instead of paying for one. But will make it easier to read, as the thought of reading 2 500+ page books is a bit easier to take than one 1,000+ page epic (I've still not read book 4 yet)
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That was one of the reasons I ponied up for the Kindle version of the hardback, as given the page count I thought it quite likely they would split the paperback (with associated cost implications)
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Sainsburys have Both paperbacks in 2for £7

Annoyingly they're "bigger" paperbacks so they don't go with the rest but at that price I won't complain
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There's a chapter from The Winds of Winter available on George Martin's website: http://georgerrmartin.com/if-sample.html . I really hope he'll finish this book quicker than he did ADWD.
Say this thread and it reminded me to thank you for this link - thought the provided chapter from Winds of Winter was excellent
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Sainsburys have Both paperbacks in 2for £7

Annoyingly they're "bigger" paperbacks so they don't go with the rest but at that price I won't complain
I'm assuming the title 'After the Feast' means they've split it at the point where it ceases to run concurrent with AFFC.

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