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Old 27-09-2019, 20:01   #21
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https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/...5-22832b5b3bf7

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Old 28-09-2019, 08:24   #22
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Old 28-09-2019, 08:37   #23
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How did you get such a fast upload?
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Old 28-09-2019, 08:47   #24
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Grrr. Jealous of you guys on Virgin Media. Still not round my area, though they are currently digging parts of my town up so hopefully coming soon.
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Old 28-09-2019, 09:00   #25
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Just to point out that a laptop ( if it's over wi-fi ) depending on the the type of WiFi won't get anywhere near your download speed even if no one was the using the connection.

You also don't need anywhere near that download speed to stream 4k without buffering regardless of who else is in the house.

Having said that ... for the same price that many ISPs are charging for < 68Mb, who wouldn't get it

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Old 28-09-2019, 09:03   #26
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I have 'GFAST' .. yep.. it's completely pointless btw. Don't get it.



I had a perfect 80/20 on VDSL2. I am around 310 metres from cabinet.

This is what that translates to. I've had Openreach out as GFAST service guarantees a lower limit of 100mbits. They refund you for every day it's below this speed. Openreach sent two guys on 3 occasions. They were shocked my connection runs at all on GFAST, it is almost not possible.

They got a expert at head office on the phone while they went through the line test. The engineer noted that I purchased a 10cm RJ45 cable to replace the 2 metre one out of box. I said yes, I got 4mbits faster connection with it. He said, yes, if he ran a cable from my master socket in my hall to his van.. it would not work.

As such, I got 3 months completely free and a price reduction on monthly cost, as 'ultrafast' has that 100bmit guarantee and they couldn't achieve that for me. I'm fine keeping it for the time being as the latency is much lower, it is slightly faster and it's stable (does go up to 120mbits sometimes but usually sits at about 90mbits). Latency is usually 5ms and I was getting 20ms on VDSL. Probably because I'm on the network on my own

BT are really trying hard to squeeze out more from their copper network and have wasted billions doing it. Money they should be forced to invest into actual fibre. If OFCOM has some balls they would ban all use of the word 'fibre' in advertising unless the service runs glass into your house. They should also severally fine BT for their inflated 'ultra fast enabled homes' 'gfast enabled' is not 'ultrafast' they are clearly not meeting their obligations. It's a scandal waiting to come out, only couple percent of homes are close enough to their cabinet for GFAST to even function and if they are that close Fibre would be easy to roll out anyway!

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Old 28-09-2019, 12:17   #27
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Just to point out that a laptop ( if it's over wi-fi ) depending on the the type of WiFi won't get anywhere near your download speed even if no one was the using the connection.

You also don't need anywhere near that download speed to stream 4k without buffering regardless of who else is in the house.

Having said that ... for the same price that many ISPs are charging for < 68Mb, who wouldn't get it
Yes, it is completely true that I don't need that sort of speed for 4k - I'm sure I read it needs between 15meg and 25 meg. However, my options at the moment are either 20-30meg I've got now or 900 meg for the same price.

Don't be so sure about Wifi from my laptop though - I've just installed a Wifi 6 card in it (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1) and ordered BT Wifi 6 mesh discs (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1). It should arrive before the install on Friday.
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Old 01-10-2019, 12:13   #28
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We've been on a 25mbps connection for years and its been pretty damn good for everything, but in recent times its starting to struggle. I suspect this is just down to the number of devices & services being used by the whole family now - with the kids being older they're both in to streaming movies and tv shows now.

Virgin were round a few weeks back doing initial surveys though so I'm hopeful that in the next 6 months we'll able to order something from them.
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Old 04-10-2019, 08:28   #29
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Good old Talktalk.

They were supposed to turn up between 7am - 9am this morning. Got the day off work as it's supposed to take a few hours.

What a surprise, no-one has turned up. I've phoned them and apparently I have an engineer booked in - but they don't know why he hasn't turned up.

I'm waiting for a call back from them. Not very happy at the moment.
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Old 04-10-2019, 13:25   #30
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I spoke to the dedicated UFO helpline and it turned out the engineer had got stuck on another job and would be with me within 20 mins.

Sure enough, two engineers turned up - it turns out that try tried phoning me on my home TalkTalk phoneline which doesn't have a phone plugged in it - not their fault.

It took about an hour to do the install (including blowing the fibre from the cabinet to my path). They were great really, nothing was too much trouble.

I've run speed tests and am getting 1.1 gbps download and 950mbps upload - it is unreal just how fast it is.

I downloaded Rapsbian from the Raspberry Pi website (via torrent) as a test - it got up to 90MB/s download and in all took 45 seconds.

In all, I'm a very pleased TalkTalk customer.
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So, you are using Open Reach fibre hardware from the cabinet to the exchange, like everyone else on a 'normal' fibre connection, but have your own, newly installed, fibre connection from the cabinet to your router ?

The method of how they laid the new bit of fibre sounds interesting.
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So, you are using Open Reach fibre hardware from the cabinet to the exchange, like everyone else on a 'normal' fibre connection, but have your own, newly installed, fibre connection from the cabinet to your router ?

The method of how they laid the new bit of fibre sounds interesting.
Hi Adam,

No, it's not Openreach at all, it's a brand new network created by Talktalk in York. Talktalk have setup a company called Fibrenation and are installing 1gig broadband in a load of cities (Dewsbury, Harrogate, Ripon, Knaresborough and York to start with). The price is very good - in the end I'm paying £25 a month for 18 months.

Talktalk as we all know can be a bit of a nightmare - but at the moment they have a dedicated team dealing with UFO and they seem to be pretty good.
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Old 09-10-2019, 21:20   #33
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What he means is it's still the existing fibre from the exchange to the cabinet in your street. Then they have laid new fibre from the cabinet direct to your house.

Unless it's all new including the exchange?

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Old 09-10-2019, 21:40   #34
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I'd be surprised if it's fibre from the cabinet to the house, the cabinets don't have the hardware in them to support any fibre going out.

Normally, FTTP goes via an aggregation node and nowhere near the cabinet, be it openreach or anyone else.
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Everything is brand new, they have created a whole new network completely seperate to the Openreach network. A bit like when NTL first installed cable in York a long time ago - all the roads have been dug up and new cabling installed.

There are brand new cabs in every street, and in those cabs there is trunking to each individual house. The trunking is empty until a house actually signs up and then the fibre is blown from the cab to the house - it only takes about 5 minutes to do.

It's been great so far, it is a genuine 900mbps both up and down connection. I've been uploading a lot of photos and family videos to onedrive and it is lightening quick.
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