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Old 07-04-2014, 07:59   #1
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BT Vision - any good?

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On Friday our Sky HD box started to give up the ghost (again) with no signal for input 2. I've tried powering it off and reconnecting (which fixed it last time) and I've also done a forced software update, still to no avail.

I'm in the process of ordering BT Inifinity for our broadband, and I'm thinking of ditching Sky to go to BT Vision as well.

From a cursory glance, there's nothing on Sky that we'd miss - most of the things we watch/record are on BBC, ITV CH4 with very few (if anything!) that is exclusive to Sky.

So - I guess my question is, is BT Vision any good? I just think it would make more sense that paying a sky engineer £60 to come to my house, tell me the Sky HD box is broke, then be charged another £100 (at least I'm guessing) for a replacement box.
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Old 07-04-2014, 08:11   #2
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If all you watch is on Freeview then why not go Freeview? Is there something on BT that you like the look of?

You also raise a good point,Why would or should you have to pay for a replacement box that provides a service you are paying for? The amount some people pay in subscription then they shouldnt have to pay engineer visits.

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Old 07-04-2014, 08:15   #3
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It's more the reliance on series link and live pause that we use Sky + for at the minute Q. I've got three boys that also watch the kids stuff like Disney etc. A quick look on the BT website seems to suggest you get their version of a Sky Box, which does live pause, series link etc. and I can still get access to the kids tv channels for an extra £3 a month
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well, at a rough guess, we'd save around £120 a year if we go to BT - I'm tempted!
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Old 07-04-2014, 08:31   #5
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be watching with interest as considering doing same

have EVERYTHING with Sky including phone and net, but they dont do fibre, unlike BT in my area

Just looking for the pros / cons

looking at our Sky planner there is nothing we would really miss

No interest in movies, like idea of the free sport as im rarely at home on game day so dont like to pay for something I may not be able to use
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I'm exactly the same - the only sports we watch are 'events' like the Olympics, Wimbledon, World cup etc.

If I go to BT the breakdown is :

Broadband (unlimited BT Infinity) £26 a month
TV Essential £5 a month
Kids £3 a month
BT Sport pack free (you can pay a bit more to get it in HD if you want)
£15.99 a month line rental for phone

One off activation charge of £35
£6.95 for delivery of BT box and router

But my employers have said they'll pay for my broadband, and I'm already paying £15.99 a month line rental anyway. The more I look at this, the more tempted I am! That's taking it from £35 a month with Sky, to £8 a month for the TV.

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Do you get bbc etc in hd on bt ?
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If you can receive Freeview HD (which we can) then you should be able to, yes
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Broadband
£26Unlimited BT Infinity 2
£20£20/mth for 3 months°
FREEBT Sport app and online player
£60 Sainsbury's Gift Card
TV
£5TV Essential
£3BT Sport HD
FreeBT Sport Pack
Phone
+£7Unlimited Anytime Calls
£15.99Monthly Line Rental
One-off charges

£6.95Home Hub delivery charge
£35TV activation fee
Total

£41.95One-off charges
£50.99Monthly cost with offers
£56.99 (Monthly cost after offers)

So 56.99 a Month with BT

We pay Sky 62.97 currently and thats non fibre optic broadband and no sport \ movies
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Well, after calling sky to cancel, they're sending an engineer on Friday to check everything for £15, if the box is at fault I get a brand new one, and they knocked £7 off my bill a month. Ho hum
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Re: BT Vision - any good?

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Well, after calling sky to cancel, they're sending an engineer on Friday to check everything for £15, if the box is at fault I get a brand new one, and they knocked £7 off my bill a month. Ho hum
The thing with alot of companies is you have to threaten to leave before they discount your line rental...What happened to customer loyalty?
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BT Vision - any good?

True! It didn't take much effort to get the deal though!
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There are half price offers on SKY at the minute, might be worth maybe taking the sky stuff out in your partner / wife's name?
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I'd say no - I'm stuck in a contract I want out of... Reasons its crap:

1. Freeview signal is WORSE decoded via the YouView box (ie channels break up more than if just decoded by my TV)
2. On demand apps crash frequently requiring reboots
3. It's slow as **** - far worse than any Sky or Virgin box I've ever used

I'm actually now paying Sky half what I pay for YouView and get movies and entertainment packages (they did a 75% off deal for me AND gave me £100 credit so it'll work out costing a total of £30 for the whole year!)

I wish I could get out of the YouView contract as the box isn't even used - there's no point when the TV does a better job at giving me a picture by itself.

There's also a Sky flash sale on today: http://forums.thedigitalfix.com/foru...85#post9983685
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BT Vision - any good?

Just cancelled BTVision myself the on demand stuff is really poor and everything else can be done with a decent freeview box.
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I'd say no - I'm stuck in a contract I want out of... Reasons its crap:

1. Freeview signal is WORSE decoded via the YouView box (ie channels break up more than if just decoded by my TV)
2. On demand apps crash frequently requiring reboots
3. It's slow as **** - far worse than any Sky or Virgin box I've ever used

I'm actually now paying Sky half what I pay for YouView and get movies and entertainment packages (they did a 75% off deal for me AND gave me £100 credit so it'll work out costing a total of £30 for the whole year!)

I wish I could get out of the YouView contract as the box isn't even used - there's no point when the TV does a better job at giving me a picture by itself.

There's also a Sky flash sale on today: http://forums.thedigitalfix.com/foru...85#post9983685
What's the Signal Strength and Quality like on the Youview Box?
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How do you get the signal for bt ?
Is it aerial based then ?
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it is mate - from what I understand, most stuff is received via your aerial - they offer to put a good aerial in for you (at only £120!!) but ours is a decent one, in the loft anyway and the Freeview HD we receive through that is as good as what we get on Sky.

If you're freeview signal is poor, I wouldn't hold out much hope of it being any better with youview!

I was lucky, I could tell the guy at sky cancellations that there's nothing we watch with Sky, that we can't get through BT Vision - which is true, we don't watch sports or movies. Give them a call and try to see if you can get a better deal, you've nothing to lose!
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Cheers, the don't even have an aerial at the house, something I never considered
Know easy out one in but not sure if worth it now reading the above
Can you just get free sat hd boxes that record etc these days ?
Pond I still have the issue that sky don't do fibre broadband
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A Humax Freesat box will record multiple channels at once and give you pause/rewind etc. Got one for my mum as she has had a lot of issues with freeview reception and it's almost identical to my Humax Freeview box.

It's pretty good and if you go to the Humax website they have refurbs at decent prices if you want to save a bit.
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