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Old 19-03-2008, 17:37   #1
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Serious Science Fiction

Having rediscovered the delights of science fiction story-telling via television repeats of The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits (Sci-fi Channel), I am now craving more serious science fiction films that question the existence of man within the cosmos. But where are the serious sci-fi triumphs from the past decade?

The Matrix is the obvious example to springs to mind, but when compiling a list of true sci-fi greats I struggle to include anything post Gilliam’s Brazil from 1985. Some will no doubt disagree with that, but what have fans of serious sci-fi got to look forward to these days other than an overreliance on special effects to compensate for weak storylines?

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Old 19-03-2008, 18:08   #2
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I would say this is in the wrong forum.
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Old 19-03-2008, 18:46   #3
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I would say Fincher had a stab with Alien3.

Solaris? - Remake post '85 obviously.

Children of Men?

Rather flawed but interesting none the less - Strange Days from 1991?
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Old 19-03-2008, 19:24   #4
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AI?

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Minority Report.
That other Phil Dick story with someone in that came out last year that I cannot remember the name of.
There's something called Southland Tales out soon that might fit the bill.
The new Battlestar Galactica?
Gattaca?
A stretch maybe but Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind?

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Old 19-03-2008, 19:36   #5
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V for Vendetta? A Scanner Darkly?
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Ta, Scanner Darkly is what I was trying to remember
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Old 19-03-2008, 19:56   #7
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I went to a talk about a month or two back where Roy Stafford was arguing the case for speculative fiction, as opposed to science fiction.

Much of the stuff mentioned above (A Scanner Darkly, Gattaca, Minority Report, etc) would fall under the category of SF rather than Sci-Fi. Afterall, aren't all sci-fi films post Star Wars just space westerns?
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thought Gattaca was a great little film, much under-rated.

I like lots listed would add-
(classics)
them!
the day the earth stood still
man who fell to earth (very mental)
blade runner (obviously)

(newer)
Starship troopers
minority report
(another Dick remake with Ben Affleck-name escapes me I actually quite liked it!)
I-Robot (Asimov's caves of steel)


Obviouslyly topical, but see 2001 if you have'nt. A marmite film, I love it
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Old 19-03-2008, 20:32   #9
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What is "serious" science fiction? Films that are scientifically accurate but which speculate? What does "films that question the existence of man within the cosmos" mean? I'd go for The Andromeda Strain. Not from the last decade though!

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(another Dick remake with Ben Affleck-name escapes me I actually quite liked it!)
That'll be Paycheck, which is loosely based on a Philip K Dick short story.
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(another Dick remake with Ben Affleck-name escapes me I actually quite liked it!)
Paycheck?

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With the cost of filmaking these days, a lot of thought is not going to go into the story. The bean counters want more bang for their buck so it's space-ships laserguns and aliens. That's about as 'serious' as it gets.
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This surely belongs in the modern forum?
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I think films like Harrison Bergeron (another recommendation) show that a SF film can be done cheaply, Gatacca is another example, Fatherland, Lathe of Heaven - you don'[t need laser guns and spaceships to make SF, thats scifi. SF science fiction is serious, sci-fi is light fun, space opera, westerns as smeone pointed out earlier. You could do a film about telepathy for example and it wouldn't need any special effects.
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From the last decade, in addition to those already mentioned, I would include Danny Boyle's 'Sunshine' in amongst the 'serious' SF films that have been released. Going back a little further I would also include David Lynch's 'Dune'.

The only film I can think of that is upcoming is James Cameron's 'Avatar' which should quite easily fit into the SF category.

SF (or even sci-fi) films seem to be very much in the minority these days.
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What about Twelve Monkeys?
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Twelve Monkeys is a good one. On a similar theme, what about Primer?
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I enjoyed this with its elements of science fact and fiction
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