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Old 27-06-2011, 15:20   #381
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Yeah - it stings, but at the same time I'd actually prefer an ebook to a hardback (or even paperback) so . . . .
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Old 27-06-2011, 19:07   #382
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Im over the moon atm... just found out they got Roy Dotrice back to narrate the new book after a massive outcry when he was replaced on the 4th book due to commitment clashes.... i cant wait for the audiobook now
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Old 28-06-2011, 22:16   #383
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Some copies of the book got sent out from Amazon Germany a couple of weeks early, so beware of spoilers in certain parts of the internet!
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Old 29-06-2011, 21:02   #384
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Hi all

I read GOT just before the tv series started and I found it to be very fatefull to the books.

The books are so unpredictable that you start to care about the characters. Then dies when you least expect it.

My guess is that this will continue.

I am half way through ACOK book 2 and bought the others.
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Old 30-06-2011, 07:20   #385
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I am half way through ACOK...
Seriously guys, I will never tire of giving a Beavis and Butthead snigger about this.

Glad you're enjoying them, Oscar. Avoid spoilers!
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Old 30-06-2011, 10:56   #386
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So if they are already being distributed then it is definitely ready? :P

I too am stuck between versions, I want it ASAP but I **** myself at paying £15 for an e-book. Preferably I would want the paperback but that isn't a likely option for now. The 12th and 13th is also public holidays over here so I will have to wait for delivery
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Old 30-06-2011, 12:16   #387
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They've priced the ebook at the same level as the hardback, the £2.50 difference is the VAT.

You can argue that the book should cost the sum of it's production costs but that isn't true of any other product or service on the planet. The story has an intrinsic value regardless of it's medium and day one launch prices are always high in the book world.

The problem of course is that there is no scope for the retailers to discount the ebook due to the agency model, and I do believe that is wrong and should be addressed.
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Old 30-06-2011, 12:49   #388
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Yes I accept that it is priced the same before VAT but even then, someone is making a killing by saving on printing, storage and distribution costs. I also agree that the purchase price doesn't have to reflect it's production costs but when comparing like for like products you have to wonder why there is a difference and the only answer I can come up with is that they are simply taking advantage of early ebook consumers.

It's for this reason that I will probably wait for a paper version.
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Old 30-06-2011, 13:05   #389
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Yes I accept that it is priced the same before VAT but even then, someone is making a killing by saving on printing, storage and distribution costs. I also agree that the purchase price doesn't have to reflect it's production costs but when comparing like for like products you have to wonder why there is a difference and the only answer I can come up with is that they are simply taking advantage of early ebook consumers.

It's for this reason that I will probably wait for a paper version.
Well I put my money where my mouth was in buying it. I've stated before that I always hate the model of release that is Hardback, then a big softback ~6-9mths later and finally a paperback ~3-6mths after that. In those days I just wanted the paperback and given I couldn't believe the hardback cost twice as much (or whatever to make) I accepted we were talking about a premium price to own it quickly. So I wanted the paperback to be available alongside but at the same cost.

In this case I finally have the chance to own the book on release but in a format that makes sense. Fair enough, I think.
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Old 03-07-2011, 21:38   #390
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Halfway through book two of A Storm of Swords.

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Old 04-07-2011, 15:50   #391
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Quick question guys - I've seen the TV show and loved it. Is it worth reading the first book (are there many changes?) or should I go straight to the second?
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Old 04-07-2011, 16:13   #392
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Plot-wise, they stuck very close to the book, and even kept most of the dialogue intact. The difference is that the book is a lot more detailed and intricate, and I think definitely worth reading as things will be fleshed out so much more for you.
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Old 04-07-2011, 19:34   #393
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The major difference I noticed (and something that is impossible to translate in the tv series) is the amount of dialogue that Daenerys has in her head, IE her thoughts. It goes on for loads of chapters just describing what she is thinking, something that I thought took away from her character in the series.
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The major difference I noticed (and something that is impossible to translate in the tv series) is the amount of dialogue that Daenerys has in her head, IE her thoughts. It goes on for loads of chapters just describing what she is thinking, something that I thought took away from her character in the series.
I would have thought that narration would have solved that problem.

When I read the book, it was almost she was the main character rather than Ned Stark.
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I think the issue it that there is no narration for any of the other characters, mainly because they don't really need any. Daenerys's character kind of rely's on the stuff in her head.
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What are you guys talking about? All the characters have very strong interior monologues throughout, which goes a long way towards defining them in ways the show had to be creative with. Tyrion, Ned, Catelyn, Sansa and Arya stand out particularly strong in that area.
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No you don't understand, I realise that they have it, they just don't rely on it quite as much as Daenerys, and therefore it doesn't affect them in the show as much. Arya relys on it much more in the next books so we'll see how that goes.
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So in conclusion we think tone capone should read the first book even though he watched the TV series, right?
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Old 05-07-2011, 08:08   #399
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Quick question guys - I've seen the TV show and loved it. Is it worth reading the first book (are there many changes?) or should I go straight to the second?
I'd say yes - I'm part-way through the book now having seen the first eight episodes. Definitely adds to the story, but the series is remarkably faithful to it.
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So in conclusion we think tone capone should read the first book even though he watched the TV series, right?
Ha! its agreed then, I start with the first book!
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