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Old 05-05-2020, 17:30   #121
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Can't some IT boffin just write an algorithm based on performances this season to decide the outcomes of the remaining fixtures, crown Liverpool the Champions with a nice big asterisk next to it to satisfy both them and the United fans. Then we can move on and try and plan for the new season sometime later this year when it is perfectly SAFE to do so...cos it ain't safe now with the death rate dropping nowhere near enough!

...life and death is actually more serious than football you know!
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Old 05-05-2020, 17:46   #122
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Not sure anyone is that fussed about getting it restarted straight away, it's more of the mothballing of the entire season for no real reason.

You say it yourself, so we can start a new season later this year. What makes you think we'll be able to start a new season later this year? I'd guess at best you might be able to play for a bit but not yet.

So not sure why you'd bother to trash 3/4s of a perfectly good season that could resume at some point. When the season is finished, you agree a reasonable rest period before starting the next season or a longer break if you can get the normal schedule on track.

OK the seasons will be messed up for a while, playing in the summer maybe. But you could just roll over the TV deals and keep with the seasons.

A lot seems to be based on UEFA and them wanting to start next seasons Champions League on time, which lets be honest, seems wholly unrealistic. Is international travel across every country in UEFA really going to be totally open with no quarantine?

The UEFA Cup Qualifying starts on 25 June. That's 7 weeks away.
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Old 07-05-2020, 09:58   #123
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Well, apparently, the Bundesliga is due to resume in a couple of weeks time...so I guess the PL will be watching the outcome of that. Final decision will be down to the Government though and I don't see the death rate falling quickly enough to give confidence there won't be a second wave if we lift too early! The Chinese have got a lot to answer for...what a bloody mess!!
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Old 07-05-2020, 10:01   #124
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The Bundesliga starts again a week tomorrow ( I think I read yesterday ) and their death rate is hardly anything to write home about. Better than ours, yes, but hardly in single - or even double - figures.

They also have 10 players/coaches tested positive just the other day, and in quarantine.
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Old 07-05-2020, 11:45   #125
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So not sure why you'd bother to trash 3/4s of a perfectly good season that could resume at some point.
It's not the same season, though, is it? Nothing is going to be in any way similar to how it was before this. It's like having the rules changed halfway through the contest.

Draw a line under it. Give Liverpool the title. Don't relegate anybody, and play with a bigger PL when it is safe to come back and play 38 / 42 games safely under the same / similar conditions.
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Draw a line under it. Give Liverpool the title. Don't relegate anybody, and play with a bigger PL when it is safe to come back and play 38 / 42 games safely under the same / similar conditions.
General consensus is that that won't be possible for the best part of a year ( if not longer ). With no income in that time most clubs in the country will go bust.

And if you wait til it is safe then why wouldn't you restart with the remaining 9 rounds of games from 19/20 ?
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Old 07-05-2020, 12:03   #127
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And if you wait til it is safe then why wouldn't you restart with the remaining 9 rounds of games from 19/20 ?
Because, as you rightly say, it could be ages before it becomes 'normal' again. And at that point, it's not the same competition.

Unlikely, I know, but imagine when we come back that Liverpool players have all been at the lockdown biscuit tin and the team tanks and loses all their matches, and City go on to win the league. Do you think it would be the same tournament?
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Because, as you rightly say, it could be ages before it becomes 'normal' again. And at that point, it's not the same competition.



Unlikely, I know, but imagine when we come back that Liverpool players have all been at the lockdown biscuit tin and the team tanks and loses all their matches, and City go on to win the league. Do you think it would be the same tournament?
That is a very slim possibility but at least it doesn't lower the integrity of the sport like, say, ditching an 80% completed season just because a couple of teams are using a global pandemic to cover up the fact they have been ***** and deserve to go down.
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Old 07-05-2020, 12:26   #129
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just because a couple of teams are using a global pandemic to cover up the fact they have been ***** and deserve to go down.
I do agree that there is element of this going on too!
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Because, as you rightly say, it could be ages before it becomes 'normal' again. And at that point, it's not the same competition.
It wont be the same anyway. Players who would have been out injured for the end of the season will be back and eligible to play, players who’s contracts expire in June might not be able to play. The lack of support in stadiums and possibly using neutral venues definitely mean it’s not the same competition.

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I do agree that there is element of this going on too!
It is not an element - it is totally that.

The clubs have admitted as much by saying they are happy to resume if there is no relegation.
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Heung-Min Son gets his mandatory military service out of the way too! (he's on it right now). Plus, we have Kane back.

(we'll still suck, but we'll suck with a fully fit squad. If we can somehow restore the man in the manager's position at the start of the season, I'll be happier).
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LOL ... the Bundesliga could have chosen a more exciting game for their first game back on Friday
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Heung-Min Son gets his mandatory military service out of the way too! (he's on it right now). Plus, we have Kane back.

(we'll still suck, but we'll suck with a fully fit squad. If we can somehow restore the man in the manager's position at the start of the season, I'll be happier).
I thought he had skipped that because he won the Asia cup (or whatever it was) with the national team?
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That is a very slim possibility but at least it doesn't lower the integrity of the sport like, say, ditching an 80% completed season just because a couple of teams are using a global pandemic to cover up the fact they have been ***** and deserve to go down.
The integrity of the PL will be totally shot anyway if they keep ******* and whining about 'completing' a season that only a fraction of fans give a toss about. The 19/20 season is damaged now by a global pandemic...that's just the way it is. So we should concentrate on resuming football when safe to do so, which will hopefully be the 20/21 season, most probably starting later than normal!

We may, if the Government lift the lockdown too early, be on for a second wave of covid19. If that happened and the season was stopped again after maybe 4 rounds of games...enough for Liverpool to officially clinch the title but not for relegation and euro places to be decided...would you still be so insistent on completing the full season?
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Yes - what part of completing the season do people fail to understand ?

The idea that we don't finish this one in favour of starting another one ( that more than likely won't make it to the half way stage before that also gets scrapped ) is crazy

Whatever happens - this season will be 'finished' one way or another EXCEPT it won't be voided. That was taken off the table ages ago

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The integrity of the PL will be totally shot anyway if they keep ******* and whining about 'completing' a season that only a fraction of fans give a toss about. The 19/20 season is damaged now by a global pandemic...that's just the way it is. So we should concentrate on resuming football when safe to do so, which will hopefully be the 20/21 season, most probably starting later than normal!



We may, if the Government lift the lockdown too early, be on for a second wave of covid19. If that happened and the season was stopped again after maybe 4 rounds of games...enough for Liverpool to officially clinch the title but not for relegation and euro places to be decided...would you still be so insistent on completing the full season?
No-one gives a **** about next season as it doesn't exist yet.
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Not forgetting of course that for the integrity of the sport ... if the new 20/21 season starts ( eventually ) BCD and/or at neutral venues then the entire season must be played that way as, apparently, changing it after the season has started is unfair

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Whatever happens - this season will be 'finished' one way or another EXCEPT it won't be voided. That was taken off the table ages ago
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Cancelled is not the same as null and void

The Times are reporting that the FA have to consent to any changes the PL want to make regarding relegation and numbers of team in the league and that the FA would block any attempts to scrap relegation.

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