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Old 03-02-2013, 09:49   #81
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The film review seemed like a (badly edited) filler that wasn't needed and seemed to throw the balance of the programme a bit.

But other than that I enjoyed it a lot as always.
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Old 03-02-2013, 14:03   #82
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You say that but I'd rather watch that than Film 2013
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Old 03-02-2013, 14:19   #83
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The film review seemed like a (badly edited) filler that wasn't needed and seemed to throw the balance of the programme a bit.

But other than that I enjoyed it a lot as always.
Too much filler material.This could have been 20mins long with just CB and DS.The rest was .... CB needs to be careful tht ths doesnt go like TV burp at the end when there was more filler than good stuff.

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The Stanhope segment from the last episode was taken from his recent stand up show. He is such a great comedian so it's great he gets a but of UK exposure over he from the Wipes

Black Mirror states 11th Feb too. Saw a preview of the the first episode (plus Q&A from Brooker). all 3 episodes look fantastic
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Looks like Robert Downey Jr has bought the rights to the episode 'The entire history of you' and is looking to turn it into a film.
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Thought Black Mirror would break me. Yep, I was right. It did. Curse that infernal Brooker.
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Old 12-02-2013, 00:39   #88
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I thought it was fantastic - I hope the standard remains this high throughout the series.
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Crappy cop-out ending but otherwise a pretty intriguing premise. Don't know the guy playing Ash but he was just the right amount of fun / creepy / sadness (at not being able to help her fully).
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I really enjoyed the premise behind it, but I can't help but wonder if Brooker ever saw Caprica.
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Genuine LOL moment when he said in reference to gay marriage that it was a departure from the normal conservative MPs relationship, that of a philanderer and a doormat.
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I'm sure Brooker has seen Caprica. I'm sure he's also read Isaac Asimov, seen Alien, and a ton of other things besides. It's not just the idea that matters, there are only so many ideas in the world (if you boil them down to basic plots, apparently only seven), it's the execution - light on sf, heavy on emotional resonance.
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Crappy cop-out ending but otherwise a pretty intriguing premise.
Why was the ending a "cop-out"? I thought it was unexpected and quite intriguing. Is he being kept in the loft like any other piece of memorabilia that will only be taken out when needed?
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Why was the ending a "cop-out"? I thought it was unexpected and quite intriguing. Is he being kept in the loft like any other piece of memorabilia that will only be taken out when needed?
Far from being a cop-out, the ending was foreshadowed earlier in the episode - when Ash is talking about what happened to the family pictures when people died - his mum stuck them in the loft.

Admittedly, I too would have preferred it if it'd ended with Martha screaming at the top of Beachy Head, as that would've been a stronger and more dramatic way of ending it. But it doesn't mean the actual ending was a cop-out.
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I would've liked to have seen what would've happened if he went outside of his 'range' involuntarily. (ie. if she went insane and jumped off the cliff, would he have had to jump after her?)
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Would be one of two things: either he follows her, on account of being programmed to remain within range; or he ceases to function and conks out like a bag of jelly. It's a moot question anyway, you can't really criticise the show you wanted Brooker to write, y'know?
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I'm sure Brooker has seen Caprica. I'm sure he's also read Isaac Asimov, seen Alien, and a ton of other things besides.
I dunno, Caprica is hardly the mainstream influence that Asimov & Alien are. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying he ripped it off, as you say there are a finite number of ideas. It just irks me a bit when you see certain reviews praising the idea rather than the execution of it.
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Given Brooker's interests, I don't think it's credible that he isn't aware of Caprica at all. On the other hand, I find it entirely credible that mainstream reviewers aren't aware of it - I Googled a bunch of "Be Right Back" reviews after the episode aired, and the number of them that had basic errors or misinterpretations in them... oh dear. Which is to say, I fully support your being irked, but that's properly directed at the idiot reviews and not Brooker.

Oh, and the Asimov I'm thinking of is hardly mainstream either - he wrote one short story - and it's been enough years I can't recall all the details clearly - where a woman gets a humanoid robot and ends up using it as a sex toy. So you can probably see why Be Right Back reminded me of that one. But it's not an Asimov story the general public are going to be aware of.

Other thing that has puzzled me about a number of reviews - why the coy references to the "clifftop scene" instead of calling it what it is, Beachy Head. Do they not recognise it, or are they for some reason trying to be discreet?

But I digress. We do seem to be more or less on the same page. Certainly I'm praising the execution of the idea, and would never dream of suggesting it was entirely new and original. Not like those pesky critics. Damn their eyes.
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Enjoyed the first. But my problem with these Black Mirror episodes is I find they tend to run out of steam in the last 1/3 and I never feel fulfilled by the ending of them. Would have liked to have seen a darker end to it personally.

The second episode looks like it could be a bit naff. Reminds of a Misfits episode from the trailer...


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Second episode better than the first. Nice grim ending
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