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Old 07-11-2016, 19:00   #441
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Hasn't that always been there?

It's been years since I watched the earlier stuff so maybe I'm forgetting something, but the main thing that bugged me about this series was they seem to have dropped the 'apart from Lister, the human race has been dead for millions of years'. If that's still the case, why do they care about ranks & following orders? Rimmer's always been like that, but the rest of them?

Also, quite a few times the writers clearly forgot that Rimmer is a (hard light) hologram & not a human being. i.e How would brain surgery work on him?
They've always been a bit lax with the hologram thing. e.g. how did the Despair squid work on Rimmer?

I agree it's a real shame we've lost the "last human being alive" bit.

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Old 07-11-2016, 20:31   #442
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Or why he was such a coward when he couldn't be hurt in any way.

The last human thing bothers me, it's like they've lost the original premise all together, and are just a "comedy in space"
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Old 07-11-2016, 21:59   #443
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Yes it's missing the bleakness. "Everybody's dead, Dave."

When they had other characters before, often it was still more about the situations the crew would get themselves into as a result, e.g. The Inquisitor.

They even had actual humans on an escape pod this series, well until they got vaporised.
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Old 07-11-2016, 22:18   #444
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Yep, the meteor has always been there.
I think it's supposed to be a small moon, if I remember the book correctly.

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That's no moon.....
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Well, I really enjoyed the series. And I've been a fan from the beginning - can actually remember discussing the very first episode in the school playground the morning after with the one other kid who had watched it... Funny the things you remember.

Just love the characters and the premise and would rather they keep making it than stop.
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Old 08-11-2016, 06:56   #447
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Well, I really enjoyed the series. And I've been a fan from the beginning - can actually remember discussing the very first episode in the school playground the morning after with the one other kid who had watched it... Funny the things you remember.

Just love the characters and the premise and would rather they keep making it than stop.
Funny you should say that because I have vivid recollections of discussing it with people in my class at Manchester Poly. It seems to work a bit like music in that way, where you can remember things you were doing, places you were when you think of a certain song or album.
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Old 08-11-2016, 07:08   #448
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Old 08-11-2016, 07:54   #449
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Well, I really enjoyed the series. And I've been a fan from the beginning - can actually remember discussing the very first episode in the school playground the morning after with the one other kid who had watched it... Funny the things you remember.

Just love the characters and the premise and would rather they keep making it than stop.
Totally agree I'd rather they keep making it.

I just wish they remembered what it originally was. What I liked about it was how it was such an anti-Star Trek sort of thing. There won't be intrepid space explorers, they'll be miners doing a fairly crappy job, just in space. They'll travel away from earth for 3m years and there'll be nothing there, no great alien civilizations, just the odd thing that humans have chucked about.
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I remember watching the first episode and thinking how brilliant it was, I must have been in my very early teens. It was the fact that he was all alone (ish) and only had the company of random things, like Talky the Toaster, The Cat, etc.

But for me I think the main reason its not as good is because its aimed at a family audience, trying to please everyone. I was going to say that we don't need silly gags, but thats not it as its always been silly. I just can't put my finger on it.
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I'd guess that since standards have dropped, Red Dwarf (probably with the odd cut) is deemed family viewing. It's often on during the day, if I recall they never really swore all that much in any major way. I'd guess they've got their demographic of who watches RD on Dave, and suggested that it could be more family orientated.

I'm really just nit picking, I love seeing it on TV and it's nice that the cast have enough love for it that they want to keep doing it.

Of my own personal favourite comedy moments on TV, most of them are Red Dwarf. Often it's segments in episodes I don't massively care for, the Glenn Miller speech, etc.

If you're a fan I'd recommend Robert Llewellyn autobiography. I thought it funny that in the episode he becomes human, they filmed the episode last with no clear ending to give him the hope that next series he wouldn't have to wear the Kryten suit. LOL
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Old 08-11-2016, 18:20   #452
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The plots and scripts have gone all BBC3 or even CBeebies. Too soft, predictable and safe.
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Currently re-watching series 3 and noticed that a lot of the things people complained about in series 11 also appear in s3, i.e.

Bodyswap - Lister uses the same vacant face when his mind is wiped
Backwards - Car style skid sound effects used when Kryten is driving starbug on his driving test
Polymorph - The polymorph sucks out Rimmer's anger by sticking its sucky tongue onto his forehead despite him being a hologram, and not even hard light at this point.

Not saying the older series weren't better, but maybe some rose-tinted-ness going on. Though on the other hand, it also shows how much of the current series is re-hashed from older ones!
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Yeah, but you don't care if the story is good, the problem with the new one is that they are not.

Backwards is ******* brilliant!
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and also if the story is original, which first time round it obviously was.
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Yeah, but you don't care if the story is good, the problem with the new one is that they are not.

Backwards is ******* brilliant!
I was the one sad ******* who turned the dialogue round using my Amiga...

...only to be told I was a sad ******* for taking the time to turn the dialogue round....

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Now you have to admit that is genius.

It's not that there weren't holes in the plot, but take the polymorph episode, the scene which followed was one of the best in the whole series, "what are we going to call ourselves?"
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Series XII confirmed for Autumn 2017!
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I'm so surprised, red dwarf hasn't been good since series 6!
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Now you have to admit that is genius.

It's not that there weren't holes in the plot, but take the polymorph episode, the scene which followed was one of the best in the whole series, "what are we going to call ourselves?"
I believe that was the Committee for the Liberation and Integration of Terrifying Organisms and their Rehabilitation Into Society.


An excellent organisation.
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