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Old 18-09-2006, 23:52   #1
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This Island Earth (1955) DVD aspect ratio?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047577/

Both R1 DVDs are 1.33:1 but IMDB say that was the a/r of the negative and the intended ratio of the movie was 2:1

My question is what do we have on the DVD? a P&S of the 2:1 or the full 1.33:1?
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Old 19-09-2006, 00:25   #2
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Full 1.33:1 I believe.
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Old 19-09-2006, 00:36   #3
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To answer my own question, I've just read a very interesting thread on the discussion section for this movie on IMDB and it looks like the DVD release is the whole 1.33:1 picture of the negative so rather than losing some of the picture like p&s we're getting more of the picture than would have been seen when it was framed at 2:1 for presentation in theaters.
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Yes, it was confirmed to be an open-matte full-frame transfer over at HTF. It's fruitless contacting Universal on your Interositor and asking for a re-release in the matted OAR since they don't really give a ****.

I want a re-release of MST3k: The Movie, dammit.
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To answer my own question, I've just read a very interesting thread on the discussion section for this movie on IMDB and it looks like the DVD release is the whole 1.33:1 picture of the negative so rather than losing some of the picture like p&s we're getting more of the picture than would have been seen when it was framed at 2:1 for presentation in theaters.
What you're really getting is more picture that was never meant to be seen - empty headroom and bottom of frame room which totally ruins the compositions. There is a long thread on the HTF about it with many screencaps to bring home the point. 2:1 is apparently how it was projected for LA reviewers, but I'd doubt that it got shown that way much - most showings would have been 1:85. NO showings would have been 1:33.

This sort of thing happens much more than it should. Warners is certainly guilty of it with The Bad Seed, which should absolutely be 1:85.
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Yes, it was confirmed to be an open-matte full-frame transfer over at HTF. It's fruitless contacting Universal on your Interositor and asking for a re-release in the matted OAR since they don't really give a ****.

I want a re-release of MST3k: The Movie, dammit.
Never mind. Perhaps this will cheer you up. The original film, uncommented, is a bonus disc
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So like I said then, 1.33:1.

I'll probably pick up the DVD when it's really cheap + I've got my Film4 16.9 anamorphic recording from a couple of weeks ago!
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Never mind. Perhaps this will cheer you up. The original film, uncommented, is a bonus disc
Sweet! Thanks a bunch man. It looks to be anamorphic too.
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Old 21-09-2006, 12:27   #9
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The Island Earth arrived; it's patently obvious that the film was composed for widescreen, and it upscales just about perfectly to 1.85:1. Not the best of recent Universal transfers (there some dirt and marks in evidence), but not the worst, and at the price, well worth having.

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The last time I saw it broadcast on the BBC it wasn't very good where the colours looked a little washed out. The DVD transfer was certainly better than that.
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Has anyone picked up the new R2 release? Any good?
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Has anyone picked up the new R2 release? Any good?
The best cleanest print I've seen of the film was on the Pioneer UK Laserdisc about 1996 which claimed to be digtally remastered and it DID look good.
It was 4:3.

The German MST3K was worse.
The version lampooned was dreadful and the uncut version was a decent print and certainly no worse than the current R1 disc.

The widescreen version on Film Four was also no better.

I would expect the R2 version to be the same.

Is it available on its own or still only as part of the boxset?

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Available on its own now (here)- presumably it's the widescreen version that was in the box, but I haven't seen any reviews or descriptions that make that clear.

Might just grab this one since it's the path of least resistance...
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Available on its own now (here)- presumably it's the widescreen version that was in the box
It is widescreen - I just bought it the other day and it looks quite nice, not perfect but ok .
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Ah great, thanks for the confirmation.

I wonder if the TV broadcasts I saw growing up were open matte or P&S? Certainly weren't letterboxed. Will be good to enjoy this epic the way it was meant to be seen
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THis is the second time in a week I've seen PLAY list something thats widescreen as 4:3.
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So what IS the final answer to this enigma? There seem to be so many ambiguous comments and opinions that I have no idea what the truth is. For example, one reviewer says that the "widescreen" R2 disc is 1.85:1 aspect ratio "as it should be" while another comments that the R2 version is "cropped to appear as 16:9" and so should be avoided. IMDB lists the movie as 2.0:1, whereas Leonard Maltin and a few others insist that the original version is 4:3.

Can someone please give a straight answer?
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I gave a straight answer two years ago, scroll up. The film was widescreen - the Variety review of the time lists the aspect ratio as 2:1 and it would have been shown that way in certain venues that could, and most venues would have shown it in 1:85:1. It would have been shown nowhere in 1:33:1. Maltin is a dweeb, the imdb lists whatever someone put in there (probably from the Variety review). It looks fine at 2:1 and fine at 1:85. Anyone who knows anything about composition should be able to look at the open matte transfer and simply see how wrong it is - no cameraman on earth would leave that kind of headroom in a shot - it weakens every single composition - all you have to do is compare the two versions and it's obvious.
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It was shown on Film 4 a few times last year at 16:9 (which is as close to 1:85 as makes no odds) & it looked spot on.
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no cameraman on earth would leave that kind of headroom in a shot
Not even for Exeter?
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