Go Back   Forums @ The Digital Fix > Gadgets and Gizmos > Home Entertainment Hardware forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 26-07-2005, 11:58   #1
Tempest
Trusted User
 
Tempest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Horley (Gatwick)
Posts: 27,586
Thanks: 1,262
Thanked 945 Times in 565 Posts
Help me persuade someone non technical why NOT to buy this!

Our local Tesco are getting these in stock for just under £400

http://www.buyyourav.com/product_det...sp?prodID=1854

And like sheep over the cliff a couple of (very) non technical people are seriously thinking of buying them for their main TV.

Anyone care to back me up in explaining (simply) just WHY these are not good things to buy.

Or do you think I'm wrong and they would be good purchases.
Tempest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2005, 12:04   #2
grimley
Apprentice Time Lord..
 
grimley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Deepest Darkest Essex, so BEWARE!
Posts: 2,477
Thanks: 2
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Erm- They're not Hi-def ready
grimley is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2005, 12:32   #3
hookbeak
Poor, poor you.
 
hookbeak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Beverley, UK
Posts: 9,091
Thanks: 90
Thanked 199 Times in 132 Posts
it's only 20" ?
hookbeak is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2005, 12:50   #4
Tempest
Trusted User
 
Tempest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Horley (Gatwick)
Posts: 27,586
Thanks: 1,262
Thanked 945 Times in 565 Posts
Thanks.....

This is the problem dealing with someone (actually 2 people both female) (Not wanting to be sexist here) who understand nothing about this stuff!

Not Hi Def (what's hi def TV's fine as it is)
Not Widescreen (why do you want widescreen)
DVD Player built in, that's gonna cause probs when it goes wrong (but it's handy having it built in)
LCD TV's when fed from a RF sourse give I feel a very iffy picture (looks fine to me!)
It's Low Res (don't undertand)

Feel I'm baning my head against a wall, trying to persuade that at the moment, unless you have a nice wad of cash, cheap lo-res 4:3 LCD's are a pointless purchase Unless you REALLY need this type, say for a bedroom wall.

Forgetting the DVD player built in (which seems like asking for trouble!)
And amazingly miss match of tehnology.

"Hey let's build in a DVD Player that plays 99% or movies in widescreen, into out non widescreen TV!"

So, forgetting that stupid idea, are there any other say 24" or 26" LCD TV's which are low in price?
Tempest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2005, 13:09   #5
Guest 35758
Rinky Dink Panther
 
Guest 35758's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Deva
Posts: 4,691
Thanks: 13
Thanked 46 Times in 31 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tempest
"Hey let's build in a DVD Player that plays 99% or movies in widescreen, into out non widescreen TV!"
I would imagine that like most DVD players you will be able to set it to play back 16:9 material in either 4:3 letterbox or 4:3 pan and scan.

Anyway, if they are birds then they probably watch UK bright ideas all day and that's only in 4:3 anyway

Matt.
Guest 35758 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2005, 17:45   #6
Guest 1330
No Wakka for you!
 
Guest 1330's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Chelmsford, UK
Posts: 4,523
Thanks: 66
Thanked 112 Times in 28 Posts
I used to get all het up about stuff like this too, but after going through that about a million times I've let go. It's their money so just let them buy what they want and if it's naff then it's not your problem. Some people will just buy tat no matter what you say.
Guest 1330 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2005, 18:52   #7
AndyWilson
--------old-geek
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 11,881
Thanks: 110
Thanked 336 Times in 167 Posts
Sounds like it's perfectly good for what they want.
AndyWilson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2005, 19:33   #8
internetuser
XBL / PSN : Googleboogle
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: In my own little wibbely wobbely world
Posts: 7,121
Thanks: 1
Thanked 75 Times in 49 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by grimley
Erm- They're not Hi-def ready
and ? HD is not the be all and end all ?
internetuser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2005, 23:00   #9
Tempest
Trusted User
 
Tempest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Horley (Gatwick)
Posts: 27,586
Thanks: 1,262
Thanked 945 Times in 565 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fozzybear
I used to get all het up about stuff like this too, but after going through that about a million times I've let go. It's their money so just let them buy what they want and if it's naff then it's not your problem. Some people will just buy tat no matter what you say.
Yeah, you are of course quite right.
It's there money so let them buy tat as you so rightly put it.

The trouble is I care and I want to get the best for any person who asks.

The same thing happens with PC's and people who know nothing.
They can ask you for weeks and weeks what to buy, you explain everything they need or don't need, they then take a trip without you to PC world, listen to a sales guy for 5 mins and come back with some useless piece of garbage with a rotten graphics card, no free expansion slots, etc etc etc.

I must learn NOT TO BOTHER !!!!!!
Tempest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-07-2005, 08:13   #10
D J Fryer
Trusted User
 
D J Fryer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: High Wycombe
Posts: 3,255
Thanks: 66
Thanked 24 Times in 15 Posts
With no widely available for sensible money source/content of Hi-Def material I seriously don't think it is even that much of an issue for an enthusiast let alone someone who just wants a new TV now.

Now if you are into HTPC's etc then obviously it becomes an essential requirement. It doesn't sound like these ladies have HTPC's to me.

Another reason you should let them buy it is because realistically they're are not likely to buy anything significantly better for the same money. Invariably anything that much better will cost more (although £400 for a 4:3 LCD TV does sound a lot - I paid that for a Panasonic we use in our dining room 18 months ago - no dvd player though).

ASDA are selling a Dual 26" WS LCD TV for around £500 (could be £600.not sure) at the moment, I am sure Tesco would be the same - not sure of specs but just in size alone it would be better value for money.
D J Fryer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-07-2005, 11:31   #11
Taq
Evil Scientist
 
Taq's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Deepest Suffolk
Posts: 3,941
Thanks: 24
Thanked 91 Times in 53 Posts
Quote:
The same thing happens with PC's and people who know nothing.
They can ask you for weeks and weeks what to buy, you explain everything they need or don't need, they then take a trip without you to PC world, listen to a sales guy for 5 mins and come back with some useless piece of garbage with a rotten graphics card, no free expansion slots, etc etc etc.
That sounds depressingly familiar.
"ooh it's got a really fast processor!!"
"yes but it's only got 64meg of ram so it'll run like a PoS"
"oh, the sales guy didn't say anything about that"

The worst thing is that they then expect you to optimise it and fix it when it breaks.

Taq
__________________
"Believe me, if I had to go the rest of my life without companionship, knowing myself wouldn't be a problem." - Gabrielle, XWP
Flickr | YouTube| Stables |
Taq is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-07-2005, 13:40   #12
Tempest
Trusted User
 
Tempest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Horley (Gatwick)
Posts: 27,586
Thanks: 1,262
Thanked 945 Times in 565 Posts
Thanks for the help on this one.
I've just read some reviews of REAL Customers on the LCD TV with built in DVD Player, with comments about having to be on their 3rd one due to DVD Drive door sticking, not opening, bad picture etc..... so that's out the picture.

I've managed to persuade to get a lovely cheap and neat Toshiba CRT, a 28" widescreen with almost no bezel around the screen (speakers underneath) togther with a toshiba DVd Player for £329 all in delivered with stand.

Simple, neat, basic TV Set. Job's a good-un
Tempest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-07-2005, 14:17   #13
Dodgy
Trusted User
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 7,041
Thanks: 60
Thanked 44 Times in 18 Posts
Why don't you suggest they get a nice plasma instead?
Dave.
__________________
Gone elsewhere, cheers folks!
Dodgy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-07-2005, 15:06   #14
Tempest
Trusted User
 
Tempest's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Horley (Gatwick)
Posts: 27,586
Thanks: 1,262
Thanked 945 Times in 565 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodgy
Why don't you suggest they get a nice plasma instead?
Dave.

I think the Directors have just run away with all of those!!!!!
Tempest is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-07-2005, 18:03   #15
Guest 1431
Trusted User
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: south east kent....
Posts: 537
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
After reading about Tiny on the news today I am suprised they are still allowed to sell anything seeing as I think most of the shops will be closed down any day soon. I am amazed the website is still up and running.
Guest 1431 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump

All times are GMT. The time now is 06:31.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2018 Poisonous Monkey Ltd. Part of The Digital Fix Network